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11:49 am April 28, 2008
| Hemi
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At my school now, it came some new rules that said something about that piercings of any kind is illegal to wear in school time. If I take out my stretched lobes it will close itself. I said that I was a member of CoBM but they said that anyone could register at some internet site. Is there any way I can show that I am a member? Any kind of diploma, a register or anything? I spent a lot of time stretch my lobes but they didnt care, they said that stretched lobes was a piercing to so I have to take it out. The new rules will begin next week. Help me anyone?
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2:31 pm April 28, 2008
| eca
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I know the Church used to have membership cards (though I never recieved one) Chris would know for sure if they've still got them. What gauge are your lobes at? They shouldn't really close up during the course of a school day (though they will tighten).
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2:51 pm April 28, 2008
| RussFoxx
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What kind of school are you going to?
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3:58 pm April 28, 2008
| Hemi
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Im in the second year of highschool, just a regular school. I just got my lobes to 9mm
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4:03 pm April 28, 2008
| RussFoxx
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A high school should not have the right to deny you of your piercings. If it were a health risk in some way, maybe. That sounds ludicrous to me.
Has anyone been expelled simply for their piercings?
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4:04 pm April 28, 2008
| Hemi
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No but with the new rules they are threatening with that.
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12:31 am April 29, 2008
| eca
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I'd say use your constitution as a starting point for fighting these new rules. Norway has freedom of speech, and freedom of religion.
According to this, Norway also requires that in public schools a course be taught on “religious knowledge and education in ethics”, possibly another good place to look for supporting arguments.
Paragraph 142 of Norway’s criminal code states a person can be
prosecuted if he or she “in word or action publicly insults or in a
demeaning or hurtful way displays scorn for any religious belief that
is permitted in the country”. You could use this as well, though, it's only been used once since 1933.
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5:29 pm April 29, 2008
| Wyntre
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Do you by any chance go to a catholic/religious school? I used to go to Northwest Catholic, they had a lot of rules like that. It went from no body piercings to crazy stuff like a friend of mine came in with a mohawk, they made him shave his head; one of my girls got a detention for wearing two different colored knee socks because it was obviously intentional….and so on. If you had a visible tattoo you were asked to leave school, remove it, wear something over it…etc. I knew a kid who had to wear a sweater every day no matter what (our school didn't have A/C)
If you are in public schooling, they have no right to make such laws. That is part of the reason I left that school junior year. If you are in fact in a private school, you may just have to let it go and take your jewlery out. I made it through with my labret pierced only because I took it out and put it in (discreetly) whenever I had a chance.
My ears are gauged also, but if you take them out and put them in whenever you have a chance (lunch, etc..) they shouldn't shrink. Mine are at an inch and I can take them out without major discomfort for up to five hours (after that it's bad because I have flares)
One last thing you could ask: what if you got clear/flesh tone ones or clear hollow ones? that way they just look like plain holes. and also ask them what would they rather see? big jewlery or holes? everyone i've ever asked chose jewlery.
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10:54 pm April 29, 2008
| khris
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my lobes are at 14mm and i take them out every night to sleep and in the morning they are a little tight but its not uncomfotabel to put them back in. In australia, school rules are the rules. they are written before you enrole in the school and thats just how it goes, so maybe just take the jewellery out before you get to school and put them back in after school.
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7:32 am April 30, 2008
| Hemi
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I spoke to my teacher about it and she said that if I could prove I was a member of CoBM I was alowed to wear my jevelry. But she said that it wasnt enough just to show them this site. How can I prove it then? Membership cards is a good ide, why doesnt we have that? Is it to expensive to make?
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7:38 am April 30, 2008
| Chris
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The price of printing and distribution of member cards would quickly add up, yes. Hemi, you can email me directly, admin@uscobm.com, and I’ll offer what assistance I can. If it’s simply a matter of confirming your member status, that can be handled quite easily.
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8:39 pm October 4, 2008
| Anora Eldorath
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I'm not familiar with the school boards in Norway or public education in that regard, but here in the United States it is against the law for a school or school employee to dictate to a child their religious preferences. Now, on that matter, a school does have a right to create a dress code for the school and they can dictate the “size” of jewelry such as “necklace pendent may only be 1 inch”, etc. It does not violate freedom or religion to do so because they are not stating what sorts of jewelry, if that makes sense. I do realize the background of this Church, but keep in mind that although they cannot dictate religion such as “you can't wear jewelry because of your religion”, they can state that “dress code dicates only one piercing per ear lobe is acceptable”, etc. I know, it's sad, but legally as it stands in educational law that is acceptable for a school district to do.
You can however fight the school board, if you have the funds and means to do so in order to change the school policies. That is the board here in the United States, at least, that sets all school policies in each district. In the United States is is recommended that you seek out an educational attorney. They will know the ends and outs of educational law as it is different then general practice. Parents will need to be involved with all minors, and you'll more then likely be asked to write up a proposal and submit it along with signatures. Signatures must be accompanied with contact information. In other words, the district's attorney if involved must be able to verify. You may try a petition first without legal counsel, but most school boards if they are dead set in a policy will not budge without some “push”. Keep in mind that school boards are generally made up of community members and in my experience some of them are parents in the district. You'll want to do your research and find out their political stance and beliefs. If you have a school board that is made up of conservatives you may have a more difficult time then if they are more liberal and open-minded.
Please don't take anything I'm saying as if I'm telling you not to fight. As a teacher I'm just trying to point out some of the facts about how schools operate so you'll know what you are up against. At least for those in the United States who may be going through the very same thing you are. I know as a teacher I also have a dress code and the last school I was in did have a stipulation that we could only have one lobe pierced. We also had a dress code that our students could not have labret piercings, so I advised my students to simply wear a retainer and those that did never had a discipline issue.
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