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spiritual modification marriage ritual...thing...?
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March 21, 2012
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indi
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forewarning-this is gonnna be extremely long, but it's a very important topic for me…

 

so Daniel, my fiance and i (also a memeber by the name of ignacious) were wanting to do some sort of modification ritual for our wedding, but there is slight issues at hand…

i was blessed with a stupid STUPID non functioning body…every modification for me is a battle….

almost every piercing i've ever had, my body has rejected. my snake bites, my nose, my navel, my tragus, my industrial, my lobes, my monroe, my labret…the only single piercing that never has was my bridge. out of these piercings i still have my snake bites (7 years in and still fighting), my nose (5 years in still fighting)  my industrial (8 months in still fighting, this is common though) and lets not even begin to speak of my lobes.

i have 11 tattoos…all in which except one has given me folliculitis …cause my body didn't react well with the ink. even a tattoo i got a year ago looks like i've had it for at least 7.

i had my tonsils taken out on the 15th of this month…when i woke up i went into a panic attack and they had to sedate me. due to the panic attack my body stressed out to the point i got burning mouth syndrome …blisters appeared all over my tongue and such. they said it was a mark of stress from my body. because of the blisters from the stress my throat got infected. for this operation i am on 4 different meds just to be able to survive it. i was posed to get them taken out at the age of 5, but they thought my body was too weak to pull through. even when i toss my cookies my face breaks out in lesions from the stress and my blood vessels in my eyes pop.

 

we thought it would be perfect to get married during susspension, but iggy and i talked about it and decided that my body would probably not react well at all through it and would end up ruining his spiritual session. i hate having this body because i feel it isn't fair to iggy. there are things he would like to do together and i just can't do them. i am in constant guilt over it even though he is uber understanding<3

 

does anyone have any ideas on how we could go about doing a spiritual modification and ritual while getting married that isn't like just another tattoo type of thing? (already have rings tattoo'd) i don't want an easy way out…I've been fighting for years with my mods and i'm not about to admit defeat in general anytime soon, but something my body may not go chaotic over and ruin for him? and is anyone a justice of peace? haha please help!

 

sorry so long.

March 22, 2012
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strommer
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thats realy sad indi i no a few people that ave had similar reactions to certain types of tattoo ink id try and figure out witch ones have been used on you and maybe try a diferent brand have you tried branding or scarification they might not have such a bad reaction i would start with a small one though just to see how your body reacts cause it would be horible for you to have a reaction like you described on your wedding day oh ya and congrats to you both 

March 23, 2012
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much empathy to them :( it really is a misfortune, but like i said…i won't give up. i love modification too much to let my stupid self get in the way of my transformation.

 

i have tried all different inks, stayed away from the ones i knew did it, but only one didn't and i think that might hold some promising aspect in the future.

 

branding and scaification is somethng we both very much admire so maybe it could be the option to go with. i honestly don't know why we didn't think of it.

haha yeah, he could spend the wedding day cleaning up my wound after chunks fall out each time i take a step :p i'd hate to see what my body would be like as a zombie.

 

 we're trying to also figure out a not so common ritual for marrige too. nothing expensive… maybe more natural. something with modification and nature.

thank youuuu!

March 23, 2012
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indi, I'm a bit unsure as to the difficulties you're having. Are you saying you react severely to almost any trauma?

Tattoos seem ok though?

Maybe consider play piercing (a joined ribbon or thread?) or marking each other in some way (a single cut for instance).

With any procedure good hydration and diet prior are vital ime. Makes a huge difference.

If you're that worried though, maybe separate public parts of the ceremony from another body ritual? Something in the evening or the day for example?

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Nietzsche
March 24, 2012
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Play piercing would probably be a fantastic idea. I'v got the general outline of it, but not a whole lot of knowledge. But I'v seen a video of friends who all did a group play, and it was amazing. They seem so, Alive! And happy. Hmmm…  I'll have to talk to her about it. 

Thanks oakbear

March 25, 2012
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What about when you get a scrape or a cut? Does your body heal normally? If so, I would suggest a scarification of some sort.

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March 25, 2012
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oh ya dont forget to think about placement cause the last thing you guys are gonna want is to have fresh mods rubbing against each other during the wedding night

March 26, 2012
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strommer said
oh ya dont forget to think about placement cause the last thing you guys are gonna want is to have fresh mods rubbing against each other during the wedding night

ROFL!Laugh

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March 26, 2012
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lmao. Thanks for the advise Strommer.

March 26, 2012
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I would most def suspend if i could for a wedding and have rings implanted in the ring finger.

March 26, 2012
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That's something I've contemplated too, lord-wraith. I've always wanted the wedding band to be an implant but I haven't talked to anyone that does implants about this yet. When I attend the seminar with Steve Haworth in May I'll ask him about it.

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March 27, 2012
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I have two brands, done with two different techniques, but one thing my artist told me about them is that, no matter the technique, brands are at a high risk of infection.

Your skin is the first line of defense against infections, and when branded, the outer layers of your skin are completely destroyed.  If you're already experiencing severe problems with relatively minor modifications like piercings and tattoos, I can only guess that a brand would worse.

Not that you shouldn't do it, if you're prepared for the task, but the aftercare is going to be one hell of a chore.  I'd say, take the standard aftercare recommendations and double them.

As for the rest of the advise you've been given so far, it all sounds good to me.  I don't know what your plans are for the actual ceremony, but if you're of Celtic decent, play piercings could fit nicely into a hand binding ceremony.

Then again, I understand wanting to receive a permanent modification on the day of your wedding.  For that, I have no direct advise which has not already been given.

Whatever you chose to do, it will be a memorable day for both of you.  After all, even people who don't receive mods on the day of their wedding tend to remember their wedding day for the rest of their lives.

Congratulations, and best wishes to both of you.  Remember to post pictures so we can all celebrate with you!

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March 28, 2012
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oakbear: yes, almost all traumas. no, i have a lot of difficulty with tattoos as well. they heal slow, if i put anything no matter how little the amount, chunks come out. even if i get in the shower and let the water just dribble on it, chunks come out. it isn't the artist, i've tried a few different ones. my most recent tattoo of 2 days ago, i've just decided to not touch it and let it do it's own thing to see what happens. may not be too sanitary, but maybe my skin is just so sensitive i can't do anything to it.

play piercings do sound interesting, but i'm going to want something that will mark me and our day forever.

thank you for your responses all the same.

 

jamesryan: i heal very slowly…one little scrape could take weeks, but i am up for trying that. it could be a possibility. thank you.

 

lmaoooo strommer…what would i do without out  that bit of your lovely sense of humor?

 

sasquatch: i am willing to risk it, it is something i will think about. yes, i don't think i'll forget it, but i am very much into marking the evolution of my life with my body. thank you and we def will :)

 

i thank you all for your responses and trying to help. i know i don't give much room and basically knock everything you suggest out, i'm sorry lol. my limitations piss me off too.

March 28, 2012
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Hand poke tattoos?

You could do a simple design (even a dot) on each other. Depending on you views/relationship, you could use a single needle and pot of ink. If you don't want high quality (maybe on a dot) you can go fairly deep. It'll blow out, but not drop out.

 

Other than that, needle and thread piercing with ink?

Brands will be a lower risk if you let them scab over. It will mark still, but not as much as with aftercare. You can also keep it covered and bathe in antiseptic if you're worried.

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March 29, 2012
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have you spoken with a doctor in regards to your reactions i no there usualy against mods but might have awnsers to why your body reacts the way it does and then i would take that info to an experienced artist and then brainstorm on options

April 1, 2012
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I'v always wanted an implanted ring. I could never lose it lol. But Its an amazing idea I can't do yet. I do a lot of manual labor and I'd be worried about its healing.

 

Sasquatch, we will defiantly be taking a lot of pictures and videos.

Oakbear, that is a fantastic idea. Thank you.

April 2, 2012
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Do the modification and live like Bubbleboy until it is all healed up? haha.

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April 19, 2012
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i love bubbleboy! ironic? hahaha yeah, i've gone to the doctor, they just said i have a weak immune system and am allergic to ink. not the brand, but the fact my body just rejects what it's made up of when it get's down in my skin.

i'm just gonna do something though. if my body goes all retarded, it won't be the first time. this is usually the thought after getting mad that i can't find something healthy or that even the healthier process=shit for me. i am thinking more about play piercings and i like the needle and thread ink idea. thank you guys for being so patient and offering advice.

April 19, 2012
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Having a body that doesn't do what you want it to do sucks.  I don't have the same problems as you do but I do live with chronic pain that effects my life daily.  Sometimes it just doesn't seem fair when everyone I know can go out for the day and have a great time and only have a bit in the way of sore muscles to show for it, where as I can't go out for more than 2 or 3 hours without being in a fair bit of agony.

 

I wish you the best of luck <3

April 19, 2012
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i am deeply sorry, dear. what type of chronic pain do you go through?

thank you! (:

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