What do we call ourselves? | General Discussion | Forum
June 6, 2012
October 2, 2011
Personally I just say Im spiritual and a member of the CoBM. The CoBM means different things to different people, not everyone believes the exact same thing other than the fact that body modification is a crucial part of personal/spiritual development, so having one specific title may not carry over to everyone.
May 24, 2012
Well, Modifier is already taken as it is an electronic music maker. Also, I do not feel the need or desire to be classified. However, sometimes leaving something nameless keeps it in the shadows or kinda taboo, so I understand.
I agree that many terms people use for the modified may not cover everyone. As far as I know there is no specific term for members of this church, as the church welcomes people from all walks of life and all faiths.
One term popularized by Fakir Musafar is "Modern Primitive", and I do think of myself as a Modern Primitive, but that term could easily apply to more than just members of CoBM.
Btw, does anyone know whether Fakir is a member of CoBM? The way he talks about his mods and his journey, it is clearly a spiritual thing for him. Just curious.
Personally, if someone asks me about my spirituality I say I am a Buddhist and a member of the Church of Body Modification.
June 6, 2012
Good to know! It was just becoming a mouthful in explanations. I didn't want to come up with my own name for something and then be completely wrong if there was an existing one. I like the idea that we all define our religiosity in different ways, but together. It makes me feel like a part of something, but that I don't have to sacrifice any of what I believe to be a part of the group. I've been here since yesterday and I already love this community. Thanks!!!
One of the ministers, who posts under the name Oakbear, has a really cool expression at the end of his posts. I guess it's his signature.
"Every religion contains little pieces of magic. Use it to shape your own truth.”
Personally, I think that's awesome.
June 6, 2012
October 3, 2011
February 27, 2012
May 6, 2012
Hello and welcome!
I'm a pretty new member myself, and I think this is a great question. I'm also Buddhist as well as a member of the CoBM.
As far as my body mods go, even before joining the CoBM, I always used the term "freak". Not at all in a negative way. To me it was the term that came to my mind when I thought about people who altered their bodies, marking themselves as outside the mainstream or conventional. I think in another way embracing the term "freak" has taken the power out of the word, I'm honored to be called a freak!
At the end of the day, we can call ourselves anything we like, but it is our devotion to spirituality through body mods that make us a family!
March 2, 2011
January 7, 2011
id say modern primitive would be good for us provided we could determine wheter we use an ancient form of faith. Like Shamanism, or possibly some of the easter traditions (i think i remember a book saying that buddhism is over 2500 years old). maybe we should add our own beliefs as a prefix to the term. Like for me I would be a Buddhist Modern Primitive lol….its a mouthfull but an idea
Modern Primitive isn't a term I strongly associate with, though I can see it being applicable to many. For myself, I don't feel a direct connection to those who have been engaging in body modification rituals for generations. What I do feels right for myself and the fact that there is some connection with certain ancient practices is what it is. I don't dwell on that fact and I don't feel especially proud of that fact, though I certainly don't feel ashamed either. Thus, it isn't a term I would ever apply to myself.
May 24, 2012
I turn away from major labels in general. Also, I feel strongly against using the term "modern primitive" because of several reasons. The book Modern Primitive is one we are most likely all familiar with and I don't follow it or even a large amount of it. I do like the book and I think it has made body art much more palatable for the masses. "Modern primitive" as a term makes me think of people running around cramming nails through their flesh… like we are unevolved in some way… like what I'm doing with my body art is more primitive than sleeping or eating. I do resonate with the ancient vibe of carrying on tradition, but that's not the reason I do all my art. I usually feel like the tradition is mostly internal transformation, with the bonus of external art, which is most likely why it's difficult to give a name. I do my mods because I think this is right for me, although I do realize it has a influence on others around me. In a similar way, I am not kind or humorous or generous because other people before me have been, but because I think it is what I'm suppose to do. I guess existentialism is what it seems like to me we all have in common OTHER THAN OUR MODS which is why we are all in the CoBM. If you don't know about existentialism, please look it up. Wikipedia gives great info on it. Seems like as soon as I am named I realize I am still becoming something else. Call me whatever you want, just don't call me late for dinner or love!! (winks in your direction)
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