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Waist Training/ "tight lacing".
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December 12, 2013
6:46 pm
kaytemew
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How does everyone feel about waist training?

I used to do it back in high school, so it's been a few years but I'm ready to start again and I can't wait. Many people argue with me about it, saying it's unhealthy and the infamous "unnatural".

Do you consider it "modifying"?
In your opinion, what are the pros and cons?

I'm curious to hear other peoples take on it, since I basically have no support in my decision whatsoever. Which has never stopped me before, but still I like to hear opinions!

For anyone who doesn't know what it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T…..ing_corset

These things have hardened in our soft pink bellies.
December 13, 2013
3:46 am
Tiffany
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This is something that, in the long run, can cause long term physical damage. If you know the risks and choose to continue, that's your decision. It's a fine line when it comes to engaging in behaviors that have the potential for self harm. I smoke cigarettes, definitely unhealthy, and even more so considering my MS. I used to be a substance abuse counselor and was very much accepting of harm reduction (such as a person who quits using heroin and alcohol but continues to smoke weed and cigarettes). If they're on the path to a healthier lifestyle, that's a step in the right direction. Motive is also an important factor, as well. There are groups online who support women's right to engaging in anorexic behaviors, and they're taking a "my body, my choice" sort of stance. But mortality rates with anorexia nervosa are quite high, and generally young women and teenagers engage in this behavior either due to body dysmorphic disorder (they believe themselves to be fat when they are practically skeletal) or as a means to take control. Basically a coping mechanism gone awry. Would the purposeful halting of food intake to shape one's body also be considered a mod? Or is this a potentially fatal mental illness that should require some sort of interventional treatment? There are still those who believe that extreme or excessive mods constitute a mental illness, but it's entirely situational. What is that person's motive and state of mind? Are they aware of any potential health risks, damage to social interactions (finding a job is difficult depending on the mod and where the person lives), and was this purposeful (for spiritual or cosmetic purposes) or was it either an impulsive decision, or purposeful as a different form of coping mechanism gone awry? So…there are many things to take into consideration when you choose to engage in ANY behavior that has the potential for long term damage, and once you've weighed all the pros and cons and established your motive, ultimately the decision is up to you.

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December 15, 2013
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kaytemew
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My topic was more on using corsets to train, not behaviors- but I'm glad you brought that up!

I am actually in "recovery" from a specific ED, but am now diagnosed as having an EDONS, due to my, what is still considered "weird" behaviors, with my eating habits . I can't say that I'm truly pro ANA/MIA, because I agree- it is entirely situational. I know that most "eating disordered" behaviors stem from something deep rooted and destructive. In my head, there has always been a true difference in those who fast for spiritual or modification reasons, and those who do it because they hate their bodies. Spirituality is about being enlightened and productive, and obviously hatred is destructive. Learning that difference was difficult for me, and continuing to REMIND myself of the difference is still incredibly difficult.
I myself, liked being boney. I always wanted to be able to see and feel that my skin is stretching over my bones. I like looking that way. However, those behaviors grew into being something destructive and dangerous, and I had to wake up when my doctor told me that I was going to die if I didn't stop. She also informed me that if I did not get it under control, I would be involuntarily entered into an ED clinic for help. It's been over a year, and I am learning to indulge in healthier "weight modifying" behaviors, like weight lifting. I can still have my bones, but I can also grow my muscles, and I happen to like the lines that muscles make better than the bones. Staying on track is rough, but I learn more and more as time goes on.

But as far as waist training with a corset goes, I have always known that there are potential long term effects as far as damaging my organs, which of course scares me. In my own head I'm convinced that I will be able to stop myself before I get to the point where it becomes dangerous to my health.

These things have hardened in our soft pink bellies.
December 20, 2013
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Definitly a mod, and as pointed out, quite an extreme one in many respects. The extremities are were serious effects like organ damage could occur though, and is pretty unlikely to begin with. You just need to go slow, steady and consistent.

I've known a few people try this, but the practicalities of corset wear over such a long period means they have given up eventually. That's really the main question for me – How would you do this daily and fit it into your life. It can certainly be done, but takes serious dedication.
I'd also say get a custom made corset for this purpose, from someone who understands your goals. Constant wear of a poorly fitted corset is not going to be nice, and it also needs to be strong enough for the task.
In fact a specialist corset maker is a good place to discuss this, as most i have known have good experience of corset wear and waist training.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Nietzsche
December 20, 2013
7:28 am
kaytemew
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I'll have to search out a good corset maker for this, then! I have a friend who suggested a few places to get good ones so I'm still weighing my options as far at that goes.

These things have hardened in our soft pink bellies.
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