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September 30, 2012
4:28 pm
Roeroe92
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Hey all, I was wonder who has dermals and who has surface piercings?

What made you decide on one instead of the other?

What are the pros/cons?

How is it spiritual for you?

Everything I read just seems like "facts" but I wanted to hear from people who actually have them. 

September 30, 2012
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I have a couple of microdermals in a tattoo on my ribcage and a few others going down my spine in another tattoo.  The tattoo on my ribcage is super simple, nothing to it really, but a few months after getting it, I decided to put the dermals to add pretty-ness to it.  The same goes for my back.  I don't feel these were spiritual for me.  Purely aesthetic. 

Pros and cons?  Umm…  For me healing was easy and a short.  Cons, if one forgets that they are there when bathing or what have you, it can hurt a bit if tugged (I can't tell you how many times I've snagged my loofah on them).

September 30, 2012
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Chyvonna said
I have a couple of microdermals in a tattoo on my ribcage and a few others going down my spine in another tattoo.  The tattoo on my ribcage is super simple, nothing to it really, but a few months after getting it, I decided to put the dermals to add pretty-ness to it.  The same goes for my back.  I don't feel these were spiritual for me.  Purely aesthetic. 

Pros and cons?  Umm…  For me healing was easy and a short.  Cons, if one forgets that they are there when bathing or what have you, it can hurt a bit if tugged (I can't tell you how many times I've snagged my loofah on them).

I'll lay odds that the dermals were great accent pieces to the tatts. I have seen a few people around that have those as accents. I don't have any tatts……. yet… but I have a few planned.. 

I have a few questions if anyone has had any experience.

I've asked a few artists about sub-dermal implants…. the small bases for a screw on ball or jewelry, or magnetic bases. I have heard there are two main ways to do the procedure. One takes a round hole out of your skin like a hole punch and the base is set in the hole and allowed to heal. The other is to make a slit in the skin and work the base in that way, which I was told was a better heal and less likely to reject.

The other implants, like stainless steel of different shapes and sizes implanted under the skin, which is probably farther than I'm interested in going right now… My biggest questions are which procedure is best in your opinion, and has anyone gotten a larger implant and has any advise or thoughts on it.

September 30, 2012
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I have done both on my own arm prob about 5cm away from each other see photo below ,
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/…..9049_n.jpg anyway i never had a problem with ether of them but they both get caught on everything as much as each other , healing wise the dermal takes to the skin a bit better then the surface but i took them out cos i got over them if i miss them i will just do it again :D

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn115/banjo182/390043_10150525461159050_511149049_11007795_1686340430_n.jpg
October 1, 2012
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I've only personally had microdermals, although my partner is very soon to be getting himself a pair of transdermals so I can certainly report on his experiences when that's done.  I had 3 microdermals along one of my cheek bones.  They lasted about 6 months before the first one rejected and about 9 for the other two.  Healing them was incredibly easy but I went into the experience knowing that there were not likely to be permanent.  I also went into the experience with the intent of getting some prominent scars out of it so, suffice to say, I've got some fairly significant scarring along my cheek bone now.  I may get the other side done similarly at some point so that I can end up with matching scars.  I suspect if I had simply gotten them removed when I noticed they were starting to reject, the scarring would have been significantly less but, as mentioned, the scars were part of the point for me.

October 1, 2012
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Roeroe92
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@ vampyremage, Do you know if they always reject? If I were to get dermals I would hope they wouldn't reject. I know there is always that possibility but I have read that dermals almost always reject in less than a year. 

October 1, 2012
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As I understand it, they do not always reject but its going to be a realistic possibility.  As always, its going to depend upon location and one's individual body.

October 1, 2012
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Thanks guys for the answers, which brings me to another question, haha imagine that!…  Ok. as far as scarification goes, I have heard if you put ash, or soot in the wound that it is safe and presents very little to no infection risk, and also leaves the scar raised and very prominent.

October 3, 2012
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There are a lot of things that can make scars raised and colored. You can rub ink in them, and usually it comes out as a marbled effect on the scar.

I didn't do an ink rubbing, but my scar is awesome. During the aftercare, you want to irritate it as much as possible so scar tissue builds up, instead of the regular scabbing and healing process. For 10 days after the cut was made, I washed my piece four times a day with antibacterial soap, then used a sugar scrub and toothbrush to clean out the cut, washed again, and spread petroleum jelly over the wound and wrapped it in plastic to keep it open, but protected.

My scar healed up as bright red naturally. It's been almost a year now, and it's only faded color slightly. It's still bright and noticeable, but not raised so much. But that could just be my skin. I have a friend who got a cutting as well, and he followed the same regimen except he used sea salt and lemon juice instead of the sugar scrub. His came out incredibly raised, very detailed, and a great red color.

It depends a lot on your skin and how it reacts

October 20, 2012
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I had surface piercings on my chest, they hurt and were very red and irritated every since I had gotten them. When I would go to sleep they hurt, and even wearing a seat belt hurt. Then I tried to go the route of the dermal to see exactly what they were about, I had gotten it done in one of my tattoos, as another lady has said.

The dermal barely hurt, and eventually i forgot it was there(other than cleaning it and so forth). On some days that spot on me would randomly hurt (it was near the hip area so I just thought it was some minor joint problems… and then I look and Boop! Popped right outta me. /:

I don't think wither are a good idea for me, per se. I reject all surface/dermals. But, dermals are what I believe to be the better option. they stay longer and have interchangeable heads.

October 21, 2012
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Hi Victoria Ireland, welcome to the forum!

I wonder how they were placed if surface piercing hurt and the dermal rejected?

 

For me the placement is the main reason for choosing one way or the other. While microdermals can go places where surfaces piercings could not due to movement, if either are in an area likely to catch or rub on clothing, or get knocked, there's a good chance of rejection.

IME well placed surface piercings tend to last longer than microdermals, although there are some people who have had well placed microdermals for a number of years now. Surface piercings tend to be a much longer heal though, and may be a more painful procedure and whilst healing.

 

I really think the key is placement. How does it sit in the anatomy, how does that body part move, and how would either piercing react to that? Too often artists just stick a surface piercing of microdermal anywhere they are asked to.

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