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October 25, 2012
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Sommersett
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I wonder where the basis of our personal preferences and aesthetics (ideas of beauty) come from and if there is a commonality among us in CoBM.

 

One of my first memories of intense feelings towards art comes from around the age of 5 or maybe younger.  A best friend of the family had a leprechaun mask on her wall.  It was only the head with a wrinkled face and he had 2 golden earrings on each ear.  When you pulled his small plaid tie around his neck, he would spit in your face and laugh really loud!!!  I was scared to tears of this damn art and I just couldn't resist him!!  I touched his creepy looking face and shiny earrings and I remember it took bravery for me to pull his tie…. of course he'd spit on me and I'd freak out, fall off the chair I had pulled up to inspect him, and spazz like a wild child while the FUCKER hysterically laughed at me.  I also remember trying to sneak up on this art and NOT wanting "him" to know I was there because I wanted to try to take his earrings.  In retrospect I like that leprechaun and wonder how that sassy art helped form my aesthetics for piercing and ideas about modification.

Any thoughts?

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October 25, 2012
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Personally, I half-jokingly blame growing up on cartoons like Rainbow Bright and Jem and Strawberry Shortcake where all the lead females had unnatural hair colors.

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October 26, 2012
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I blame Burton and Giger with a twist of 80/90s goth for my personal looks.

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October 26, 2012
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Makes perfect sense to me!!  I like to point fingers at Barbie for all sorts of stuff… namely her big stretched holes in her ears!  Remember you could pop the earrings in and out and I swear the holes were just about the same size in proportion to my own.

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October 26, 2012
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I'm not entirely certain where the root of my personal aesthetic comes from.  I remember greatly admiring woman like Luna Vachon and Sensational Sherri who were always out there and far from traditional females in appearance.  I've also always appreciated darker imagery but as for pinpointing a specific influence, I'm not certain that I really have one.

October 27, 2012
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I really don't know where my aesthetics came from.  I do remember watching the movie Empire Records and after that I really wanted to pierce my nose.  I think it does have a lot to do with what we're exposed to as children.  I also really wanted to pierce my nose based on pictures from India in National Geographic magazines.  I always thought it was beautiful and timeless, so to say.

October 29, 2012
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Sommersett said
Makes perfect sense to me!!  I like to point fingers at Barbie for all sorts of stuff… namely her big stretched holes in her ears!  Remember you could pop the earrings in and out and I swear the holes were just about the same size in proportion to my own.

Yep…. I have bought those for my daughters… the earring holes are 18g just like most earring studs for real people…. so my daughter could use her own earrings to accent the doll.

 

I get my piercing ideas from my spiritual beliefs, but some are not spiritual in nature, but just for fun and decoration…. and I have to admit movies have influenced some of the ideas I have….. circa 80/90's.

October 29, 2012
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I've thought quite a bit about this.  As a child I had an unnatural fear of dolls so barbie was never a part of my play time.  I was never really around people who were modified outside of ear piercings and my uncle with his 2" tattoo, and television at my house was very restricted as a child.  I think the girth of my interest came from my local library.  I remember falling in love with books with photos of persons from tribes in the Amazon and Africa, and then getting in trouble for reading 'smut' (my parents thought the content to be inappropriate).

October 30, 2012
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Beauty is a mysterious topic indeed.

I saw a documentary once that asked the question, "What is beauty?"  Not just in the physical or artistic sense, but in all ways.  People describe many things to be beautiful.  Music, a child's laughter, a sunset, a forest, a texture or flavor, etc.

There was a scientist in the program that said he had measured the symmetry of many people's faces, then showed photos of these faces to many different people and asked them to rank the attractiveness of these faces.  He found that those people who had the most symmetrical faces were consistently ranked higher.

But the most profound thing that I took away from this documentary was the concept of "Walking in Beauty."  It is an idea that comes from Native American spirituality.

Think of a forest.  Trees and bushes and hills and valleys.  Areas of dense growth and clearings filled with grass.  At first glance things appear to be random.  There's three bushes here, one there, a couple trees there.  There doesn't seem to be anything consistent about it.  However, nothing seems out of place.  Everything fits together, and if you step back enough there is a pattern to the way things are laid out.  It is this pattern that makes the forest beautiful.

The patterns in the forest give order to the forest.  The patterns in your life give order to your life.  Those patterns make your life what it is.

So if there's something in your life you're not satisfied with, then there's some kind of pattern that you could change to remove that thing from your life.  Likewise, if there is something you feel is missing from your life then you need to establish a pattern that includes that thing, and it will become a larger and larger part of your life.

As far as where my idea of what I should look like came from, I think I'd have to agree with what everyone else seems to be saying.  I saw the standards of popular culture, but the popular kids never liked me, so I was part of the counter-culture.  As such I rejected their standards.

In my younger days I had long hair and listened to rock and metal.  These days I buzz my head and grow a very long beard, but I never felt comfortable as the clean-cut all-American boy, probably because this sort of image was part of a multitude of things that was forced on me as a child, and because I rejected my parents' style of parenting I also rejected everything they tried to teach me except right and wrong.  Too bad they don't practice what they preach.

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November 2, 2012
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i believe mine came from seeing my dads tattoos he has quit a few do to the fact hes a biker so i was always fascinated by mods as well as my favorite uncle who is not only covered in ink but has a few piercings my grandma used to joke around and tell me i was lucky i didnt live with my dad cause i would end up covered in tattoos i always wondered what she would think if she was still around to see my transformation Laugh

May 8, 2013
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I'm ready to revisit this thread. I feel like we were going somewhere, so I hope to keep up the journey.

I wonder about the connection between the knowledge gained by getting and living with modifications and a common aesthetic preference for oneself. The emotional traits we carry along with the physical we have already mentioned.

Everyone has something to say about the Mona Lisa until you're standing in front of it speechless.
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