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Piano Wire Piercing?
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March 16, 2011
11:36 am
Dizzy_Essie
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Was just thinking this morning about if anyone has ever heard of using piano wire as a piercing tool… let me know if you have heard of this, or your thought please. ^_^

March 16, 2011
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No.

Just no.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Nietzsche
March 16, 2011
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Dizzy_Essie said:

Was just thinking this morning about if anyone has ever heard of using piano wire as a piercing tool… let me know if you have heard of this, or your thought please. ^_^


Tool how? For cutting through or piercing through the skin, as something to hold the hole open…? This is intriguing, I just don't see how you mean.
March 16, 2011
11:53 pm
Dizzy_Essie
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I was thinking using larger gauge rigid wire cut into short lengths and sharpened to a point on one end used for temporary piercings. It could also be bent or curved. Just seems like an interesting material and wondered if anyone had heard of it or similar.

March 20, 2011
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Jamesryan
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How exactly would it be sterile?

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March 21, 2011
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I've never heard of it being used. Its not quite clear how you are intending to use it. If its for piercing, there are reasons hypodermic needles are the stander. For jewelry, I would imagine the texture of the piece would cause irritation of the fistula. What did you mean "Temporary Piercing"? Is that like play piercings or ritual piercings that is done without the intention healing the opening? I'm interested but not sure exactly what you had in mind.

March 21, 2011
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Dizzy_Essie
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It is high tensile drawn steel, so I imagine it would be as easy to sterilize as any other steel. As for use, yes I was thinking play piercing, hypo needles are OK but I like pushing something a little larger gauge thru my flesh.

March 21, 2011
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Jamesryan
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They make needles in larger gauges.

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March 22, 2011
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JMcCauley
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i guess, have a few pieces autoclaved and give it a go. im not sure it that is something for me but i wouldn't mind hearing about your experience. different material do give different sensations. for play piercing, i do prefer solid needles to hollow.

March 22, 2011
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You do know how these strings are made right?

They're wound, so are essentially serrated….

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March 22, 2011
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I'm not sure that piano strings are wound, such as a bass guitar's strings are. This picture leads me to believe that at least some piano strings are simply a thick wire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F…..trings.jpg

Regardless, I dug around a bit and did come across a reference to piano wire in the third paragraph of this editorial written by Fakir.

My personal thought though is to keep the piano wire in the piano.

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March 22, 2011
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JC Alvarez
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I've read of Fakir Musafar's experiences using piano wire as a suspension method, but haven't found much in the way of using as normal piercings, etc. As Chris Carter's link showed, it is a solid thick wire that seems pretty strong. If you can figure out how to steralize it, then using it for piercing purposes might be intersting, I just wouldn't want to try it without plenty of information about the pros and cons of such a venture.

If you do try it, I'd love to hear about your experience.

March 23, 2011
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Oakbear
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I believe larger strings are still wound, often with copper, although the wire itself can be found up to 6g it seems.

Not sure of the composition, as some is high carbon content, and also has a fair few other metals in with it.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Nietzsche
March 31, 2012
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Piano wire by any other name might be called high carbon, high tension wire…or steel wire, etc.

March 31, 2012
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You know, I think if you can sterilize it properly, there's no reason not to.

 

Personally, I wouldn't. I'd just use a larger gauge needle.

April 2, 2012
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that sounds like a really bad idea im sure you  could find something more sterile and made of more safer materials. what gauge are you going for?

April 3, 2012
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As a professional piercer I first saw this and thought sterility issues as well as excessive skin and tissue trauma. No matter how much you sharpen it for use as a perforation tool it will not be sharp enough to sufficiently and safely puncture the skin. You. Would risk extensive damage to the area. There are many ways to obtain medical grade per-sterilized needles for temporary piercings. Check into catheter needles, and medical supply companies. Also many urban agricultural stores will have needles of various lengths and gauges available for veterinary medicine. Although your area may have restrictions on obtaining these most are readily to the public with out any requirements. As for using it as jewlery, no, no, no. Piano wire contains copper, nickel, and other metals that will oxidize, This rate of oxidation is increased when it comes in contact with the acids and proteins in our skin. This can lead to serious risks including life threatening infections, or even metal poisoning. All though I encourage your modifications, I must try to instill a matter of safety and encourage you to look for a sterile alternate means.

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April 3, 2012
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I completely agree with Jimmy, though I can see the reasoning behind Fakir's editorial. I'd have to talk to Fakir personally to make a final call, however.

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April 4, 2012
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Fakir was experimenting this type of thing before we had the knowledge we have today. The piercing industry is. Fairly young enterprise as far an industry is concerned. If we think about it it wasn't until 1982 that wearing gloves became a standard practice in a doctors office. Piercing other then tribal culture ones have only been around as we know it since the late 70s. There was even a point when guns were used by the godfather of piercing (Jim ward) as well as needls being reused. What fakir did was utilize the safest material possible at the time. We also have to think that even during the popularization of the movement it was largely a taboo associated with gay and bdsm which at the time was ostrisised by general public. So the resources we have we're not as really available to him.

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April 4, 2012
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strommer
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thats a realy good point jimmy if it wasnt for jim ward and fakir doing the trial and error aspect of it there wouldnt be a standard to go by so just cause they might of tried it doesnt mean it worked or that it was safe i really think you should look into safer methods and materials im sure theres something out there that will be good for the affect your looking for 

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