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Opinions on self-piercing and tattooing, etc
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August 1, 2012
5:07 pm
Breanne Redin
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I'm always quite torn on this.

As someone who fully believes in RESPECTING and taking care of your body, I totally understand the point of view that blogs such as AwfulMods has.

However, I feel like there is a point where it shouldn't be considered so awful, for example when it is done for spiritual purposes by someone who is of age and able to make a responsible decision.

 

What are your thoughts on this? I'm really torn, because part of me would love to TRY self modding to an extent, with as much care as can be done yourself without a professional, but I would hate to be "that person" who did a shoddy self pierce and ends up on awful mods lol.

August 2, 2012
4:14 am
KristenAtkinson0
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I say if you have the knowledge, facility, and know the risks, go for it. I don't agree with head shops selling needles to just anyone. That's how people get hurt. 

I can see how self-modding would be very good for ritual. I don't know that I would do it, myself, but I can see the appeal.

August 2, 2012
11:52 am
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I don't have that much of a problem with self modification so long as the individual isn't also offering to mod others.  When it comes to the modification of self, the individual (I can only assume) knows the risks going into that.  They should know that its a less sterile environment and that they are an amateur and thus there is more of a likelihood for piercings going wrong. 

 

Some self modification is done in a more intelligent way than others.  Its difficult to have a positive opinion of that person who takes a sewing needle and "sterilizes" it by boiling it or dipping it in rubbing alcohol.  However, if one does their research, uses pre-sterilized needles and doesn't go outside of their comfort zone, I am inclined to have a different opinion.  So much self modification, now days, is that done by the impatient teen because their parent refuses to sign a consent form to get it done by a professional and unfortunately that leads to very poorly done and poorly researched piercings.  This is not the same situation, however, as the adult who does their research and thus does their piercing in as safe a manner as possible, considering circumstances, for personal or spiritual reasons.

 

Personally, the only self modification I have ever done or ever will do is of the temporary variety via play piercing.  I don't feel comfortable enough in my skills to try any sort of more permanent piercing, but for those who take the time to research and plan what they're doing, I don't have much of a problem with it.

August 2, 2012
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Breanne Redin
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Thanks for the responses, guys! I feel a little better about it, now. lol.

August 3, 2012
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If you know what you are doing, and not being an idiot by using a sewing needle, and are actually wearing gloves, and proper needles, and proper EVERYTHING, then by all means.

We are all born a blank canvas, physically and mentally, It is up to us to decorate our mind and body.
August 3, 2012
1:31 am
Breanne Redin
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ColaChampagne said
If you know what you are doing, and not being an idiot by using a sewing needle, and are actually wearing gloves, and proper needles, and proper EVERYTHING, then by all means.

HAHA yeaaahh it was that kind of thing I was implying in my first post when I said "with as much care as can be done yourself without a professional", I would be getting the best tools for the job that I could, and doing as much to keep it sanitary and safe as possible. Thanks for the thought, I'm feeling a lot better that not everyone is going to think I'm a moron for really wanting to try this..

August 3, 2012
4:18 am
KristenAtkinson0
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I wouldn't think you were a moron anyway, even if you were using a sewing needle "sterilized" by fire. But I would say that if you were to go that route, you have not been properly educated. I know that there are a lot of stereotypes and discrimination even within our own community. I don't think that someone really needs to pick apart and destroy someone else because they make a bad decision. I think that it is our responsibility to tell them, yes, this is wrong, but I understand why you would do that. This is how to do it better and safer. While some people can't be helped, I think education is the best medicine in this situation. A lot of people use sewing needles and such only because they don't know better. Telling them differently, and educating them on proper techniques of sterilization, can lead to a better understanding and perhaps more thought onto what they need to do.

August 3, 2012
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I'm for safe, educated and responsible modification.

That can be done in a shop or at home. I've seen very unsafe, uneducated and irresponsible work from both settings too though. It never fails to amaze me that people will do such things without gaining knowledge first.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Nietzsche
August 3, 2012
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Some things are easier to do than others.  What are you trying to accomplish?  If you share a bit more info, maybe I can tell you where I would shop for supplies.  Of course education is key, but there are some things you need to be guided through…. suggestions like hold your hand like this or position your body like this.  I think it is beautiful that you want to do some self exploration and feel confident enough to share about it.  The emotional stuff is not my personal strong point, but I am full of practical and even scientific info.   Be brave, be smart, and breathe.

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August 3, 2012
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Breanne Redin
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KristenAtkinson0 said
I wouldn't think you were a moron anyway, even if you were using a sewing needle "sterilized" by fire. But I would say that if you were to go that route, you have not been properly educated. I know that there are a lot of stereotypes and discrimination even within our own community. I don't think that someone really needs to pick apart and destroy someone else because they make a bad decision. I think that it is our responsibility to tell them, yes, this is wrong, but I understand why you would do that. This is how to do it better and safer.

That's lovely, I'm glad to hear that :) I wish more people thought like that in some of the groups on Facebook that I'm in (IE: Ear stretching network… oi, the fights they have!!)

Oakbear said
I'm for safe, educated and responsible modification.

That can be done in a shop or at home. I've seen very unsafe, uneducated and irresponsible work from both settings too though. It never fails to amaze me that people will do such things without gaining knowledge first.

Yeah, definitely. It's why I follow Awful Mods even though part of me doesn't agree that it's ALWAYS bad to do it at home… I always want to know what's bad, and why, because I don't want to be like that.

 

Sommersett said
Some things are easier to do than others.  What are you trying to accomplish?  If you share a bit more info, maybe I can tell you where I would shop for supplies.  Of course education is key, but there are some things you need to be guided through…. suggestions like hold your hand like this or position your body like this.  I think it is beautiful that you want to do some self exploration and feel confident enough to share about it.  The emotional stuff is not my personal strong point, but I am full of practical and even scientific info.   Be brave, be smart, and breathe.

I'm actually not sure yet what I want to do, I was having such an internal debate about even considering it that I haven't given it much thought. I figured it would be best to start with an ear piercing, no? Easier to hide if I really screw up placement or something, and my ears heal quite well (from previous piercings I got at Claire's as a kid…). I only have 3 lobe piercings as it is, so I certainly wouldn't mind more. Although if I do decide to go further I'll definitely ask on here :) I'm feeling very good about the positive responses, I was quite scared I'd be insulted and all, hahah.

August 3, 2012
6:33 pm
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I believe that if you know what your doing by all means do it I've done 34 of my own piercings and do find it to be more spiritual but at the same time I know when to ask a pro to do it for me research is the key if you don't know all the pros and cons what to do and how to do it then don't and i agree with oakbear I know a lot of shops that have put out bad mods as well as people in there homes doing D.I.Y. mods that have done horrible work research is the key don't go to a shop or some idiot that says they know what there doing without asking every possible question and seeing there work

August 3, 2012
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strommer said
I believe that if you know what your doing by all means do it I've done 34 of my own piercings and do find it to be more spiritual but at the same time I know when to ask a pro to do it for me research is the key if you don't know all the pros and cons what to do and how to do it then don't and i agree with oakbear I know a lot of shops that have put out bad mods as well as people in there homes doing D.I.Y. mods that have done horrible work research is the key don't go to a shop or some idiot that says they know what there doing without asking every possible question and seeing there work

oh yeah, I definitely plan on researching, and certain piercings I just would not do. Example being tongue, for one. Too much can go wrong there, I wouldn't risk it.  thanks!

August 4, 2012
5:19 am
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Before try self-piercing and tattooing it's need enough knowledge, tools and skill. So if you have and you confident about it so you can do it your self.

September 21, 2012
11:06 pm
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honestly the only time ive had a really bad experience is at one shop. I can see the discrimination from a lot of people with home modification. I can see why too but like everyone has said It can go bad or good in either setting. knowledge is definitely key. Ears would probably be easy. you can see properly etc.

 

on another note, i realllyy love all the openess here! i Think this is the first time in a forum like this that Ive seen people not jump anyone's shit about self modding. If we can just be the voice of our community. Ive encountered way too many discriminatory personalities in the community and it saddens me. How will our life choices ever be accepted if were not open and accepting as a community? educate the masses in both reasons and how to… I think thats the only way its going to change

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