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May 1, 2012
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I have already spoke with Chris Carter about a student group I would like to get started on my campus. He has stated that the CoBM cannot officially support or back an individual or group to speak on the behalf of the Church, which makes perfect sense, but the CoBM can offer guidance and such. I need some guidance and suggestions at this time.

 

A little background first:

The purpose of the group is to:
1) Have a group of like minded individuals for support, guidance, and friendship

2) Educate the campus and the surrounding community about body modification, its practitioners, etc.

 

My overall goal is to make the campus and the community more accepting to those with visible modifications through education but as well as actions by us. I want this group to consist of reputable and scholarly students to show that we are not all "a bunch of hethern" and that modifications do not mean that someone is incapable of performing and achieving success.

 

Questions:

1) Application process/requirements

- GPA, community service, etc

 

2) Possible community service events / philanthropies that can relate to body modification somehow

-the only thing i can think of is to help do work with organizations that do reconstructive surgery on burn patients/trauma patients or prosthetics. I want it to be something where modifications are required, not optional (aka breast implants, laser hair removal, etc)

 

I need some more ideas people, anything you can think of will be greatly appreciated.

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May 2, 2012
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For the application process:

An essay of at least 100 words describing what body modification means to them.  As this group will not be an arm of CoBM, I don't see a need for there to be a spiritual aspect for your members.  However, if I were starting the group I would want it to consist of people who looked at it as more than "something to fit in with the cool crowd".  Nonetheless,

A QnA session with founding members/group officers upon submission of said essay to address any questions the group might have.

Requirements:

A currently enrolled student or alumni.

As you said, a reasonably high GPA.  Where you draw the line is up to you, but I'm thinking anything lower than about 3.0 might defeat the purpose.

I don't think you need much more than that.  As far as community service events you can do, something related to body modification would indeed be cool.  If you want to stick to that you can help just about anyone in a hospital.  Every kind of surgery is a modification.

However, I see no need to limit your service to those who need modifications.  To demonstrate your value to the community, serve every part of the community.  Teach first aid and CPR for free.  Donate to homeless shelters or shelters for abused women and children.  Set part of your membership dues aside to sponsor children in Africa.  Any kind of service to anyone who needs it.

As for educating the public, one good way to help people accept body modification is to point out that nearly everyone in this country modifies their body in some way.  Here's a list of socially acceptable mods to get you started:

Shaving body hair.  Dying the hair of the head or face.  Laser hair removal.  The wearing up make-up (some do consider this a body modification).  Small ear rings that women commonly wear.  Circumcision.  Any kind of surgery, whether performed for health or cosmetic reasons.  Body building.

Another good way to help people accept body modification is to talk about how much care and preparation goes into even the simplest modifications.  From instrument and work-space sterilization and how to avoid cross-contamination, to single-use needles, to proper after-care procedures.  The general public seems to think we're all doing this stuff to ourselves or each other in some dusty cellar with no training, precautions, or aftercare.

You might consider purchasing a copy of The Piercing Bible. I've never read it, but it's over 300 pages, and it's written by a very experienced piercer and member of the Association of Professional Piercers.  I'm sure there's a ton of info in there that would help you prove to the general public just how serious we are about proper procedures and safety during and after a modification.

Good luck to you.

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May 2, 2012
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I own The Piercing Bible, and it's an amazing resource for anyone looking to join the industry or just become more familiar with their body and piercings in general.
Either way, I would purchase it.
Well worth the read.
It was written by Elayne Angel, who has over 40,000 successful piercings and was also a manager at Gauntlet at one point.
She's an expert in her field and the book itself is informativr, interesting, and extremely well written. :)

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May 3, 2012
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this is a neat idea did you think of making fliers with info on them then passing them out to the general public to let them no what where about and  also we have a lot of disabled vets out there with prosthetics maybe volunteer with them  or even just picking up trash in local parks i no groups can adopt highways to keep them clean good luck with your group let us no how it works out 

May 4, 2012
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Maybe there could be some way of organizing speeches in a park nearby or having some sort of spokesman for the group that travels around the area giving speeches to help people further their knowledge and understanding of a world few understand in depth.

I definitely wish I could have had some sort of group arund my area that could have educated me further.

It would have helped me massively with what I plan to do next.

 

I also just realized that my earlier idea somewhat defeats the purpose of having the application process be only currently enrolled students or alumni.

But, an idea that could be implemented nontheless.

Good luck.

I'm excited to see where this goes. :)

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May 4, 2012
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Thanks for all of the input.

The GPA requirement at Marshall is 2.25 to be in a student group. I think what I'm going to implement is you must have a 2.25 to become a member but then you are expected to work toward a 3.0 each semester, basically I want to see improvement each semester you are involved with the group.

As far as application goes, I've modeled the form heavily after the CoBM's minister application form. SasQuatch9585 brought up a good point that everyone might not be doing it for spiritual reasons so i do need to modify that portion more. Nonetheless it will be students who are scholarly, reputable, and have their mods for more than a "cool thing to do".

I'll check out the piercing bible, I've been meaning to anyways. Another excellent resource is Modern Primitives. I highly recommend checking it out if you haven't done so already, its helped educate me on a ton of things.

I plan on setting up an information table at the student center at least on a monthly basis as well as sending out campus wide emails at least once a semester.

Something else that is cool is the Student Activities Board gives $500 a semester to student groups who are recognized by Marshall. There's a ton of paperwork that has to be done, membership records have to be provided, a constitution has to be in place, etc. What do you guys think would be a good investment for this money once I get it that far?

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May 4, 2012
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Maybe getting more known artists from around the US and Canada to come and speak to the group about different modifications and how to respect your body. 

I would definitely want to see something like that if I was in your group.

Once again, just an idea. :)

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May 14, 2012
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A quick little update. I have ordered wristbands and tshirts for the group. On the front of the shirts it says "KEEP CALM and MODIFY", on the back it says "Body Modifications: Its all the same" with 3 columns of different types of body mods listed. The columns have the "accepted" mods such as teeth whitening, hair dye, laser hair removal, body building, etc and then "normal" mods like piercings and tattoos and then "harder mods" such as meatotomy, subincsion, tongue splits, implants, etc. 

I also had me a hat made at the mall that says "KEEP CALM and MODIFY" on the front and then "MODIFY MARSHALL" on the back. I have already had people ask me what my hat means and it has given me the chance to talk to them about the group. I think its awesome. 

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May 14, 2012
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corey.joe.clark said
A quick little update. I have ordered wristbands and tshirts for the group. On the front of the shirts it says "KEEP CALM and MODIFY", on the back it says "Body Modifications: Its all the same" with 3 columns of different types of body mods listed. The columns have the "accepted" mods such as teeth whitening, hair dye, laser hair removal, body building, etc and then "normal" mods like piercings and tattoos and then "harder mods" such as meatotomy, subincsion, tongue splits, implants, etc. 

I also had me a hat made at the mall that says "KEEP CALM and MODIFY" on the front and then "MODIFY MARSHALL" on the back. I have already had people ask me what my hat means and it has given me the chance to talk to them about the group. I think its awesome. 

That's awesome. :o

Where can I get a wristband? ;D

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May 14, 2012
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I never thought of selling them anywhere but campus, but if you want one I guess you could send me a money order or something. im doing one for $3 or two for $5, and just throw in a few dollars more for shipping. hit me up in a pm or Facebook and we can figure something out. All profits will go back toward the group budget to buy more wristbands, tshirts, and information flyers/brochures.

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May 14, 2012
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I would love one (Or two or three or…) and the ability to help out your group!
Figure something out and send me a PM anytime.
I'll be happy to help out, if possible. :)

I'd also like to offer help with making some of your flyers or brochures.
I've got a good friend (And part of the CoBM) that does photo manipulation and Photoshop work.
We could really make something cool for you, if you wanted.
Just thought I'd offer. :)

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May 15, 2012
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Those t-shirts sound good!

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May 15, 2012
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I'd definitely rock a T-shirt like that.  How much are those going for?

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May 15, 2012
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The same goes with the shirts as the bracelets, I never really thought of selling them anywhere but on campus and such. The price for the shirts will probably be $15 each depending on what the print shop charges me, I work there so Im hoping they hook me up. So I guess we could do a money order or something plus a couple bucks to help cover shipping?

 

Do you guys know anything about paypal? Im sure if you guys are expressing interests in these that I might get others interested too. Ive never worked with or used paypal so I know nothing about it. Could I set up an account for the student group that people could pay and then I ship them the items? Is it a free service or do they dock a % off of each purchase?

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May 15, 2012
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I'm not sure.

I tend to stay away from PayPal, simply because I still haven't figured out how to use it. >.>

xD

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May 15, 2012
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You can find PayPal's User Agreement here.  It's a very long document which you should probably read thoroughly before you sign up for it, but I took a quick glance at the section about fees.

The highest fee I saw there for domestic payments is 5% + 30 cents.  This is for what they call a micropayment, though I'm not clear on what exactly constitutes a micropayment.  Generally, these fees drop as the monthly volume of transactions increases.

There is a section that seems to say that sending and receiving a personal payment is free, but this is only when both the sender and recipient are in the U.S., the payment is made in U.S. Dollars, and the payment is made using a PayPal Account, or a bank account.  Payments made with credit/debit cards are charged 2.9% + 30 cents.

I didn't read enough to know whether your group would fall under a personal or business account heading, however, the business fees aren't much different than the personal fees.

There is also a section describing other fees for charge-backs, withdrawals, and other such banking activities.

On the surface, it seems much like a standard bank.  Good luck to you on this front.

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May 16, 2012
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this sounds great. good luck and best of hope that it works out for you.

i would love to be in it. my schooling…not so dedicated, but i've volunteered for the American red cross disaster action team, the local non kill animal shelter, and habitat for humanity, but yeah, i'm too far away.

booooo :(

May 16, 2012
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Definitely keep us updated on the progress and payment methods when one is decided upon.

I'd love to contribute!

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May 20, 2012
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Quick update:

I have started looking into getting registered as a not-for-profit organization. The Federal paperwork is like 40 damn pages, then the state is like 8 pages. It's going to be a challenge but hopefully this will work out. Does anyone know any tips or how to's on this paperwork?

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May 21, 2012
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More info with the shirts. Im coming up with the list of mods for the back now. Here is what I have so far, please give me more input.

Hair dye
Hair styles
Hair implants
Wigs
Eyebrow shaping/waxing
Teeth whitening
Braces
Tanning beds
Body building
Nail polish
Make up
Breast enlargement
Breast Augmentation
Liposuction
Rhinoplasty
Botox
Laser Hair Removal
Skin graphs
Sex changes
jewelry
Microdermas
meatotomy
subincision
ear cropping
ear pointing
scarification
branding
genital beading
tongue splitting
body suspension
transdermal implants
subdermal implants
tooth filing
hood splitting
corseting
labret scalpeling

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