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metaphysical modification?
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July 14, 2012
1:48 pm
Minnesota, u.s.a.
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As a huge fan of theology i have recently been researching the actual religious pretense of Voodoo. I have found it to be a very resiliant religion steeped heavily in folk lore of many diffeernt religions and cultures. Some of the rituals and such contain modification aspects (bloodletting, scarification, etc.). Anyway the disscussion i wanted to incite is not whether or not they adapt spiritual modification to thier principles, but more so is it possible if one believes in Healing/Hexing Magick, can this be a form of modification. I guess what i'm really asking is does a modification of the mind, or soul which is not readily apparent such as a piercing or tattoo still be a body modification? Anyones thoughs?

Jimmy "English" Lesniewski
July 14, 2012
3:11 pm
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Physiological psychology is so interesting and I thank you so much for putting it out there.  I don't consider it something to believe or not, because science can prove the importance of the hippocampus.  I mentioned it as a topic to add to Fakir's categories of body mods.  Do we consider it body modification is such a great question!!  I'm going with yes.  However many spiritual groups divide the "self" into mind/ body/ spirit. (jin/ shin/ do)  I think the mind can absolutely be modified through ritual just like our tattooed arms and stretched ears.  Now the soul is a whole different topic and I don't know how to approach that.   

Everyone has something to say about the Mona Lisa until you're standing in front of it speechless.
July 15, 2012
2:45 am
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I think however you may or may not choose separate parts of the self, one is influenced by the others.

I think what i'd call any change would reflect where it started tbh. So a body mod is primarily of the body, a spirtual mod of the spirit etc. If a physical ritual engages spiritual change, then that's a body modification in my mind, even if lasting effects of the physical are less apparent.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Nietzsche
July 15, 2012
2:33 pm
South Korea
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February 27, 2012

Interesting topic!

I don't think I'd classify that as body modification, personally. A change in the mind can lead to a change in the body, for example, deciding to be healthier and changing diet habits which change the body. But I don't consider the decision the body modification.

A trance-like state I wouldn't classify either.

Really, when it comes to the mind, I don't know that I'd call it modification. For those who may think a modification can happen in the mind: if a person is on medication to change their thoughts, would that be considered modification? It's not a visible modification, but it does change the state of mind. 

I guess that's the easiest way for me to explain my view on it.

July 16, 2012
9:17 am
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Changing diet which changes the body and the point about medication reminds me that someone mentioned something about breast augmentation being considered a "body mod."  What was that?

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