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March 8, 2012
5:24 am
Jamesryan
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I'm not sure if this topic has been touched here at COBM, but running a search with the keywords containing "membership card" returned no pertinent results. I was thinking, since I happen to be a fan of having a membership card for the organizations and institutions I'm a part of, that COBM should at least ponder the idea. I have my college ID as well as my membership card for the Druidry Order I'm a member of). I display them on my messenger back in the card slot there. What do you guys think?

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March 8, 2012
11:28 am
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I would definitely approve of this idea.  I'd love to have something I could keep in my wallet or similar that stated I was a part of the CoBM.  Although, I suppose, once I get my church bars scarred that's a sort of membership card right on my body, in a way.

March 8, 2012
1:53 pm
DutchessOfNill
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I think cards are a very good idea.  Especially for someone like myself who isn't ready to have bars inked/scarred on us just yet.

March 8, 2012
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It could also help generate some sort of revenue for the church itself, with the cards being offered for donation (to help the church with it's various forms of fees) on a gradual scale, say we may be able offer a minimum donation, but also have the option so that we can donate whatever we'd like.

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March 8, 2012
3:09 pm
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Another fantastic idea.  I'm sure many of us who are passionate about supporting the CoBM would be happy to donate, especially if we do get that little something extra for our efforts.

March 8, 2012
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great idea i would love a card maybe and would be so down to donate for one to help suport the church 

March 9, 2012
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I also feel that such a membership card would create a sense of belonging in the physical world – something we can hold. To those of us that haven't been able to meet with other church members or go to any sort of gathering, I fear there could be a slight feeling of disconnect, for one cannot hold the internet.

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March 9, 2012
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Great idea!

Whilst it would be nice to have a plastic 'credit card' ID badge, i wonder about the practicalities. Not to say it can't be done…

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March 9, 2012
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Even if it's not that high quality, I'd be more than happy. My druidry order card is simply a thick business card. We could always opt to have them laminated ourselves, to save the church more money.

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March 9, 2012
3:16 am
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What about a print out yourself card, a la Discordian 'Official Pope' cards?

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March 9, 2012
4:18 am
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That's a good idea, but I feel that one could escape helping the Church out that way and I feel these cards could be an excellent resource for the church. Maybe just some sort of processing fee donation for the Church to have your photo put on the card for you, then sent to you via pdf (or whatever format you prefer).

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March 9, 2012
6:44 am
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As the President of the CoBM, I can safely say that there will not be any membership card in the near future. A while back I was actually a supporter of such an idea but there are a few strong arguments against such a thing.

To begin, why is a membership card needed? It doesn't add credibility to the CoBM. Do you know any Roman Catholics that carry a membership card? Zen Buddhists? Membership cards are good for giving you access to something, like a gym or discounts at the grocery store. They are not for proving your spiritual beliefs or to prove that your held religion is real. If anything, I think that membership cards take away from the sanctity of my beliefs.

Also, there is the fear that, if we did have membership cards, some people may think they can use it as a sort of trump card. "You want me to remove my piercings while I'm at school/work? No! And here's my membership card proving that it's my religion and you can't make me." Trust me, this scenario isn't as unheard of as you might think.

Finally, it could be a logistical nightmare. Not that everyone would want one but there are over 4,000 CoBM members. Envelopes, stamps, paper, printer ink, laminating sheets, the time involved.. it could take an insane amount of time just to get through the back-membership, not to mention all the new members that join.

Again, I'm not trying to crush anyone's idea. Like I said, I once thought membership cards were a great idea. However, after speaking with the Board of Directors at the time, I spent a few weeks thinking about it and agreed it just didn't made good sense in the end.

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March 9, 2012
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Chris, as ever you are the voice of reason!Smile

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March 9, 2012
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Chris Carter said 
Also, there is the fear that, if we did have membership cards, some people may think they can use it as a sort of trump card. "You want me to remove my piercings while I'm at school/work? No! And here's my membership card proving that it's my religion and you can't make me."

I'm not going to lie, that made me laugh pretty hard. At least there's an amazing response to this discussion (referring to everything else as well).

Thanks, Chris.




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April 23, 2012
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I think it would be an interesting idea, but Chris does bring up some good points that are difficult to argue with.

Having a card wouldn't make us anymore members then a certificate that says "Congratulations, you're in."

A card doesn't need to be in our possession to prove our faith in something.

I think a safe alternative would be having the Church Bars somewhere.

Like a decal on your car or a shirt on your wall, etc. 

Just an idea :)

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April 23, 2012
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Jamesryan said

Chris Carter said 
Also, there is the fear that, if we did have membership cards, some people may think they can use it as a sort of trump card. "You want me to remove my piercings while I'm at school/work? No! And here's my membership card proving that it's my religion and you can't make me."

I'm not going to lie, that made me laugh pretty hard. At least there's an amazing response to this discussion (referring to everything else as well).

Thanks, Chris.




It was pretty funny, as far as work/school goes, One does not simply question as Chris referenced, Catholics and Buddhist believes at a place of education and/or business. A card would not necessarily prove any more credibility more than word to mouth would. Although, I'd feel very awesome walking around with a card in my pocket, I don't think it would change any thing.

May 24, 2012
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what if it cost…idk blank amount of moneys, and when u send it to us bc we paid for it(i would think $10 would be great for the making it fee, shipping in an envelope and stamp. 10x4,000 cuz we all would buy it lol) send a notice. like a letter that states this card is strictly for notification purpose only, it does not give you the right to walk anywhere etc etc with mods and piercings and what not in.

im fairly certain everyone in CoBM is understanding to laws, regulations, etc of the public. we have the right anywhere and everywhere to have our mods but of course ppl will say get out somewhere.

maybe make a notice before payin for it that says something like, we are not responsable or something like that you kno? i think its a grand idea! lol

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