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Lip piercing possible issue
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December 2, 2012
8:13 am
KendrahLi
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I just wanted to get a broad scheme second (or tenth) opinion(s) on this piercing. I got spider bites done on black fri and though they seem to be healing fine I have some concerning issues. First off I had massive swelling, about 3x normal lip size. I started a regiment of 4 advil every few hrs as directed, pineapple juice (for inflammation, bromaline in it is an anti-inflammatory) and icing it frequently (about a tray's worth a work shift). The swelling is mostly down but I've been fighting one of them trying to embed into my lip. I went to the piercer on thurs to see if I needed a longer stud and he said it'll be ok and to just keep advil and icing. I got the front to stop trying to swallow the stud when the swelling came down but the back seems to be trying to grow over the back. I wanted to double check if it looks fine before showing up twice in under a week lol

I have non-alcohol listerine for after meals and am near neurotic with h2ocean after piercing solution 6x a day or so to keep clean of the healing fluids and crusties.

hard to see the diff btwn the back of the stud and the skin, but it's nearly 3/4 covered now and getting harder to pull out https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhx4mubjxtf56v1/PC020444.JPG
the front healing up nicely https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvzjomx269jnw15/2012-12-02%2004.43.23.jpg
what the swelling is down to (very glad for this I don't look like a DV victim anymore) https://www.dropbox.com/s/qnec8j0cskq8og6/2012-12-02%2004.43.56.jpg

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December 2, 2012
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KristenAtkinson0
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Get a longer post. If you're having to "dig out" anything, it's not right.

December 2, 2012
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KendrahLi
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I didn't have this issue with my tongue, it didn't really swell at all lol annoying much. But yeah when I go to pick up more h2ocean I'm about 98% leaning towards talking to him again about it.

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December 2, 2012
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I second the advice to get a longer post. When I got my vertical labret snakebites done, I had the same sort of problem where my lip swelled so much that it started trying to eat the beads. I went back to the artist who did them, got longer posts put in and the problem was solved. As soon as the longer posts were in place, my lip was much happier and the swelling started going down in fairly short order.

December 2, 2012
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I have non-alcohol listerine for after meals and am near neurotic with h2ocean after piercing solution 6x a day or so to keep clean of the healing fluids and crusties.

I agree with Vampyremage and KristenAtkinson0 longer post. I would not use so much h2ocean only twice a day,keep using non-alcohol listerine. The h2ocean mite dry out your piercing to much.

December 5, 2012
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When in doubt, consider a longer post. Also, definitely change your aftercare regime. If you are going to use a mouthwash, you should be using one that isn't so harsh. Listerine is notorious for being strong. I would actually suggest switching to saline or just cool water to rinse with, only 3 times daily. You certainly don't need to go overboard with it as most piercers suggest. And as for the H2Ocean, again, 2-3x daily is more than sufficient. Stay hydrated, eat well, sleep well. Your body is what does the healing, not any products, so the healthier you can be, the better off you are.

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December 7, 2012
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Everybody's right. Longer post, definitely. Part of the reason it's swelling so much is because it's compressed. Another option would be to have it pierced with rings or horseshoes that would allow for much more swelling than flat-back studs, but done is done.

All the other advise about aftercare sounds good too.

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December 8, 2012
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As an interesting note: I used a tad bit of my hemp tattoo healer near one of them to heal a cold sore and it rapid healed the skin around the piercing it was near. So once I put a very fine coat of it on both to see what it'd do.

They are doing much better in the front and a lil of it applied to the top of my lip seems to be aiding the back. The piercer doesn't seem to agree to the longer post so either I'm going to deal with the back, seek out another when my next pay check hits, or wait out the two months and get a diff one when i can switch it out. Most of the pain is gone and a majority of the swelling.

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December 9, 2012
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Is it still sinking into the back of your lip? If so get a better piercer! If not and it's not sore or digging in you've weathered it out ok, and hopefully it'll be fine as long as it doesn't swell again.

The bar length can be a tough call, as enduring a shorter bar for a short period might be better IF the swelling subsides fairly quickly. However if it is embedding or causing more trauma it's worth biting the bullet and changing to a longer bar. The latter is the safer option imho.

As for hemp cream, around a piercing site should be good, as part of the healing process can dry skin and cause it to shed. Any moisturiser should do the same, although some may also act as anti-inflammatories, depending on ingredients. You have to be very careful not to get it into the wound though. It's not sterile, and introducing any foreign matter into the fistula is not good. Creams and ointments also tend to leave a waxy layer to stop moisture escaping, which could clog the wound and delay healing or cause complications.

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December 14, 2012
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like everyone before me i think longer post as for the mouthwash try biotene also try doing a tea bag compress with black tea or chamomile it'll help bring the swelling down and help pull out toxins

December 19, 2012
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I forgot about the tea bag compresses! ty for reminding me, they were an old fave for eye issues a long time ago.

The gf came down to visit and saw how I look when we got up. She insisted that we go to buy diff bars and we did it at home Sat night. It's feeling much better now. Feels better and healing faster without as constant vigilance on the care.

I love my tattooists at the shop but I'm leaning towards finding another piercer (and not just because she's on my rear about it lol). Swear it felt like I was going to lose my lip for a bit.

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December 19, 2012
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im concerned by the fact that you referred to your piercer as a tattooer most tattoo artist that ive met that do piercings do good at tattooing but suck at piercings granted theres always an exception to the rule but if it is a tattoo artist that did it i would go find a actual piercer to do any other piercings you have planned …….and im glad to hear its doing better

December 19, 2012
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meant the tattooer at the shop lol, ie I'm not going to fully switch shops just need to find another place to get a better piercer

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December 19, 2012
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For sure throw a longer post in. While healing, always go with at LEAST an 8th of an inch to compensate for swelling.

December 20, 2012
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Glad it worked out well. Definitely get a better piercer!

emacfaline, welcome to the forum? From your advice you sound like a piercer. Am i right? ;)

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December 26, 2012
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KashakuTatsu said

I started a regiment of 4 advil every few hrs as directed, pineapple juice (for inflammation, bromaline in it is an anti-inflammatory) and icing it frequently (about a tray's worth a work shift).

It has nothing to do with the piercing, but be careful with advil, too much can be quite hard on your kidneys and stomach (getting any heartburn?). I would say stick to the dosage on the bottle rather then your piercers instructions in this. Also, a longer post cannot hurt unless you bite it on accident.

My other warning comes with rinsing. Be wary of rinsing too much or you can develop a fungus on your tongue called thrush which is basically just a yeast overgrowth because all the bacteria in your mouth that normally keeps it in check has been killed by this over-cleaning. It is usually just a white coating on your tongue of just crud with no real effect except it looks nasty, but can actually become painful in really bad cases. Yogurt (bacteria in yogurt help prevent it) and cutting down on sugary food/drink while you are rinsing can help prevent it.

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January 6, 2013
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Yo Kas… quick take it out!! You'll pick up radio signals. You might speak truth!! You'll look sexy!!

By all means… stop kissing there! Laugh

Looks great, Boo. Keep up the awesome sauce! I'm guessing it's all normal by now.

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January 7, 2013
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lmao yeah "stop kissing" coulda been good advice when the gf was here XD lil late with that one =p

and yes it's normalled out quick once we got the diff bars in. I still bite it semi-regularly when trying to eat lol Retraining one must do, yes.

oh and no, no heartburn to report. I'm used to 800mg advil and up for most of the month, every month for the past 22 yrs. Unless I'm lucky to score a soma/norco combo >.>

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