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February 26, 2011
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JMcCauley
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the symbol for the church is a circle with 3 horizontal lines but where did it come from and does it have any specific meaning?

March 2, 2011
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The three lines of our symbol indicate:

 

Mind.

Body.

Soul.

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March 4, 2011
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i thought that might be the case and it makes sense. I just couldn't find where it said for sure. thank you…

March 8, 2011
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You can see it on one of the ritual boxes in the shop. :)

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March 13, 2011
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As 3 lines indicated a senior member of the 'old' church, i had wondered if that had been adopted for all as an indicator of equality?

I must confess i got 3 lines tattooed as a metaphorical finger to the idea of being graded or judged….

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Nietzsche
March 14, 2011
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Many, many years ago I think some ministers got the three lines tattooed and they were known as "minister bars". Today, everyone is welcome to have the "CoBM bars" tattooed, branded, or in any other permanent way put onto their body. Some also have the circle encompassing the three lines, which is the official symbol of the CoBM.

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March 14, 2011
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I personally love the idea of "minister bars". haha.

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March 14, 2011
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As an aside i wonder if there's merit in compiling a brief history or timeline of the CoBM?

I remember some of the old organisation, but would be very interested to learn more, and how the process evolved.

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March 15, 2011
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I'd like to second that.

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March 15, 2011
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That's already in the works actually. I've been going through my files and speaking with people who were involved from the beginning.It should be done in the near future.

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March 15, 2011
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Awesome, I'm excited for it.

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March 16, 2011
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Nice!

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March 21, 2011
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that would be great to read some of the churches history. explaining my beliefs to someone isn't that hard but describing my church seems to be more difficult than I would have thought.

March 28, 2011
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I found this in the BME Wiki archive stuff, although it's very dated and doesn't reflect well on some of the 'old' church

http://wiki.bmezine.com/index……Listing%29

 

There is also a rebuttle here

http://wiki.bmezine.com/index……Listing%29

 

Of course new and prosepctive members should also look for the current situation here

http://wiki.bmezine.com/index……dification

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March 29, 2011
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Nice find!Laugh

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March 29, 2011
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I'm surprised it started in 2000, i thought it was a couple of years earlier tbh…..

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March 30, 2011
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The problem with that old entry, at least one of the problems, is that very little of it is verifiable. If that old entry had been posted on Wikipedia, it would have been yanked down for that reason. Regardless, we decided to move it to an archive listing opposed to removing it completely as we didn't want it to seem as if we were trying to hide anything.

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March 31, 2011
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I think that seems the responsible thing to do.

I agree some of it seems sketchy, and some of it a little different to my recollection!

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April 3, 2011
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I hadn't read or couldn't find much at all about the church anywhere. It sounds like there have been quite a few significant changes from then to now. What had happened that the changes needed to be made? What were some of the changes even made? 

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