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February 8, 2012
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I grew up as a member of both the catholic and chiristian (pentecostal) religions… through out the course of my belonging to both sects i came across a bunch of ppl that were just fanatics of the “faiths”… people who ignorantly followed beliefs without so much as investigating their meanings… people who were so closed minded that they let their own bigotry drive off members that actually were looking for meaning within those communities… i guess what im trying to say is that i believe that in the CoBM there is some sort of fanaticism… people who modify for the sake of attention and not for the core value of the modification… i was just wondering if there are any people who agree or disagree with this… i do honour valour… you will not offend me with your comments… im just simply curious on the various points of view we all share and hope to better understand one another….. 

February 8, 2012
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You raise an interesting question. Why do people modify themselves? For attention, rebellion, spiritual reasons? I would guess that, for most people, there are several reasons for any given mod. And if one of those reasons is for attention/to be noticed, I don't think that's an inherently bad thing. I don't think there are many CoBM members who would rank 'attention' as the number one reason for their mods, however.

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February 8, 2012
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I think one's reasons for modifying oneself are going to be intensely personal and differ from individual to individual.  I do not believe it right to judge another's reasons for modifying as right or wrong based upon one's own internal criteria or one's own reasons for modifying oneself.   Modifying for the sake of attention isn't an inherently bad reason to modify because, again, one's reason's for modifying are going to be individual.  My reasons for modifying, for example, may not be the same as someone elses but that doesn't make my reasons or theirs any better or worse than the other. 

 

I would also take some issue with the assertian that modifying for attention cannot fit into one's core value of the modification.  While I personally don't modify for the attention, I have come to realize about myself that I don't dislike most of the attention I recieve because of it and would even go so far as to say that I enjoy the attention.  Yes, I have other more central reasons for my modifications, but I don't think I can honestly claim that attention doesn't play some small part in my reasons for doing so.  I think of my own body modification artist as well, who has stated to me quite directly that he loves attention and I most certainly do not respect him any less because he happens to enjoy the attention his modifications grant him.

 

The sorts of issues I have with fanatacism stem from individuals trying to foist their reasons for modifying upon others and try to foist their beliefs upon others.  I do not think its respectful to look down on others because their beliefs are a little different and even less respectful to try and forcibly change their beliefs to better reflect one's own beliefs.  As long as everything remains individual and no one is trying to change how anyone else believes or anyone else chooses to modify or not modify, I don't have a problem with whatever shade their beliefs happen to take.

February 10, 2012
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thank you guys for your input.. you have given me a new angle of view on this concept… i comprehend that each indvdidual is different. hell if we were all the same we’d be robots… i just have never had a real discussion with anyone on the subject… i have my core beliefs and i will stick to them…but its nice to get something we can all agree to disagree to disagreee to agree about… lol…

February 14, 2012
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I’m not sure if i agree with the definition of fanatic here.
I agree fanatic tend to follow the rules to the letter but may not question this, and consider all others wrong, however they do tend to believe. Do we have fanatics? Maybe, but it seems unlikely simply due to the lack of dogma in the CoBM, and i haven’t met one yet.
There are few rules, and nothing to prescribe preaching or conversion. In fact it is quite explicit that this is a personal path, and thus it would seem foolish to try to insist someone follow your way. Also, as personal questing is promoted, then questioning and making your own rules is positively encouraged, not usual in religions which fanaticism is usually associated with.

Do we have people who join for social reasons or to be cool, and don’t believe the core values?
Probably, but the application process means they would at least have to have an abstract understanding of the CoBM’s core values, in order to pretend this was their view. Would someone like this bother? Anyway i think that f they wish to join, maybe this is an opportunity. We don’t all immediately have a deep understanding of our faith, and the church may be a spring board to assist in the journey.

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