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March 8, 2012
6:07 am
Jamesryan
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I'm just curious as to how many of us have the Church of Body Modification bars tattooed, scarred, branded, etcetera, onto our bodies?

I do not, however, on my next tattoo sitting for my sleeve (which will be around the 17th of this month), I'm having the three bars, minus the circle, tattooed onto my thumb digits, on both hands. I'd like to, one day, follow in the fashion of Russ Foxx and Loran Shumway with white ink church bars on my temples, simply because I find this extremely attractive as well as symbolic in it's placement and ink color choice.

 

So, who's got them? 

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March 8, 2012
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I do not have church bars on my body, as of yet.  However, that is something I intend to get either late this year or early next year.  I've got a few other projects I need to complete first, but its definitely on my immediate list of things to get done.  I'm planning on either a branding or a skin removal scarification on the side of my neck.  At this point I'm leaning more towards the skin removal because my artist does not currently have the equipment he'd need for a branding, unless that should somehow change before the time I actually go to get it done.

March 8, 2012
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I've always leaned more towards skin removal. I'm not sure why, maybe it's the aesthetics? You'll have to keep me posted about this, I'm definitely interested in seeing it when it's done.

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March 8, 2012
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I will absolutely keep you posted.  The idea of the branding, for me, isn't so much about the aesthetics as about the fact that the idea of branding the bars into my flesh resonates with me on an intuitive level.  Were I to get any other scarification pieces done I don't think I'd go with branding as it is not my favourite look aesthetically, but getting my bars done are something special. 

 

If I can try to actually put it into words here, most of my modifications, independently, don't mean a whole lot on a personal or spiritual level.  Taking everything separately, a single tattooed image or a single piercing doesn't mean much.  For most of them, I don't have a story about deep personal meaning nor do I link then with a certain memory of the past.  Its about the journey, about taking control of my body and creating a wholestic physical change so while an individual image doesn't mean much in and of itself, everything taken together has a very profound meaning for me.  Getting my church bars done is different because that is an image all on its own that has a profound meaning outside of the context of the larger project.  I hope that made sense.

March 9, 2012
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I understand. I have this image of myself that I'd like to reach and currently, I'm not there. It's going to take years, more than 10, but I feel I'll begin to see it after 5 or so. This is just a feeling and not based on any statistics or anything truly fathomable.

I have many tattoos, all with deep personal meanings; however, I'm having them all covered, eventually, by the piece that is starting with my left hand/wrist, which I've posted about elsewhere. This piece will, one day, consume my body. I've got the entire work sketched out already, but putting it on the body takes a lot longer than drawing on a piece of paper after exiting a trance.

Even though all the tattoos I have have sincere, concrete meaning, they don't mean as much to me as my spirituality does. Originally my tattoos were aesthetically pleasing with meanings linked to other people, to experience, etcetera, but not my tattoos are drawn from the spirit world. I literally enter into shamanic meditations to seek answers to how I should modify my body. Many tribal societies that incorporate body modification into their culture and practices do this, and since I've been studying shamanism for many years, I thought I'd be capable of doing the same, thus I am doing as such.

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March 9, 2012
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I just wanted to share two links from our FB gallery which include various types of church bars people have gotten.

http://www.facebook.com/media/…..038;type=3

https://www.facebook.com/churchofbodmod/photos

It may surprise some people but I don't have them anywhere on me yet. I do feel that I've gotten much closer to earning them, however. I can see myself getting them tattooed within the next year.

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March 9, 2012
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Thanks for the links Chris.

 

Its only in the last couple of years that I've started stating openly that I have plans for what I consider to be radical self-transformation.  I've been on this journey for about 7, almost 8 years now and have known that I wanted to modify since before that, but only in the last couple have I realized just how much.  My physical self-transformation coincides with my spiritual self-transformation in a lot of ways.  It allows for my inner self and my outer self to be in synch with one another.  Before I started modifying and before I started being more visible about the ways in which I modified, I had no real connection to my physical body like everyone else seemed to.  Only through taking control of my physical body have I come that the rather profound realization that it is mine just as much as what's inside my head is mine.  Its not just some shell to house the internal me, but it has value and context in and of itself as well.

March 9, 2012
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I don't really feel like I am ready for church bars. 

In a way I feel like it's just not time for me….  That's not the right wording…  Hmmm…  I feel like it is not yet my place (that's more accurate to how I feel) to have them done, and I don't think I will feel that way for quite sometime.  I just feel like I have a lot of internal work to do before I really am ready for it.

Has anyone else felt this way?

March 9, 2012
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I certainly relate to that feeling.  If you had asked me a year ago about getting my church bars, I would have absolutely said that I wasn't yet ready to do so.  I hadn't progressed far enough on my spiritual journey to have earned by church bars, so to speak.  I feel that I have progressed that far now and so I do want to get them in the near future.

March 9, 2012
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I know how you all feel in the sense of "earning" them. That's why I'm getting the ones on my thumbs first because I feel that while they're not the ones I have to earn (the ones I must earn will be placed on my temples in white ink, as I have previously mentioned), they are symbolic of my goals. I hold my mind, body, and spirit in my hands and what I do with them is my will. Maybe I put too much thought and meaning behind tattoos, maybe I don't put enough. One day I'll earn those temple bars. One day.

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March 9, 2012
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I'm sure that you will earn your temple bars one day.  I feel as if I have recently surpassed a personal hurdle and in doing so have earned my own.  For me, its about understanding of myself and the role that body modification has taken in my life.  I can now clearly and definitively state what it means to me and, largely, the reasons why.  I have a long way to go on my personal journey and, most probably, that journey will never truly reach completeness but to me the bars don't symbolise that my journey is completely but rather that I have dedicated myself, body and soul, to the journey itself.

March 9, 2012
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For me, the thumb bars represent my personal journey whereas the temple bars represent my own service to the community of body modification spirituality.

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March 9, 2012
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Its interesting that you make that differentiation.  I am only just now starting to get involved in helping the community in a more active way, aside from simply posting information on forums and word of mouth.  In particular, I've just starting helping out with suspensions.  Or, more specifically, only one suspension so far but I'm hoping to help with more soon.  I haven't  decided just how far I want to go with that yet, though I am very happy to have the opportunity to give back a bit, especially something that I am so passionate about as I am with suspension.

March 9, 2012
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So far, what I've done to give back other than remaining active on these forums is to offer free ritual writing services. I write rituals for anyone that requests them via PM. I also run my website as an aid for anyone that feels inclined to read.

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March 9, 2012
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Interesting.  What goes into writing a ritual, if you don't mind my asking?

March 11, 2012
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i got mine on the bridge of my nose witch you can see pics on the fb page but i used to dream about having 3 bars on my bridge for some time and after joining the church witch i didnt take lightly ive been researching religions for most of my life with none fitting into my personal beliefs til i came across the cobm and at that point i knew it was ment to be so i did em myself and now i cant believe i waited so long to go through with it i definitl understand waiting and think your all wise for not jumping into something like that with out alot of thought but when its right youll know

March 11, 2012
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I used to feel like I earned the bars, but I'm not sure I ever did. I used to be really active in the forums and stuff, but then life took hold and I lost the church for a little while. But I came back recently after joining in on one of the chat sessions with other members. I'm glad I did that, as I hope I can be more active now.

I don't think I'm ready for them yet, but I know they are coming soon.

March 11, 2012
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vampyremage said
Interesting.  What goes into writing a ritual, if you don't mind my asking?

Well, I go through a process in writing rituals for someone else. I've been writing my own for nearly a decade, so I thought it'd be easy to write for others – I was wrong. I go through a process of inquiry, learning as much about the person's intent for the ritual, their personal beliefs, and more and I try to tailor to that and include anything they'd like in the ritual specifically. I include a lot of different things in the rituals depending on the one at hand, but I always include something like a journal at the end of the pdf file so you may print it out and record your experience, and I also always include a list of materials needed for the ritual at the beginning. Those are uniform things, many others can change depending on need and desire.

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March 12, 2012
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Thanks for the feedback James.  I'm not really looking for someone else to write a ritual up for me.  I feel that its a very personal thing and to have the proper meaning its something that I should be writing up and desigining myself.  Rather, I'm just looking for a few ideas to start me off in the right direction.

 

One thing I intend to do, in pursuing this route, is to get more dedicated to meditation.  Its something I have been sadly neglecting and I feel its time that I changed that.  I really like the idea of keeping a journal as well.

March 14, 2012
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KristenAtkinson0 said
I used to feel like I earned the bars, but I'm not sure I ever did. I used to be really active in the forums and stuff, but then life took hold and I lost the church for a little while. But I came back recently after joining in on one of the chat sessions with other members. I'm glad I did that, as I hope I can be more active now.

I don't think I'm ready for them yet, but I know they are coming soon.

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