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Changing role of pain
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January 3, 2014
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Oakbear
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Hi folks, i thought i'd share some of my recent experience and wonder if anyone else has been in a similar situation.

I've always been one of those 'love mods hate pain' types. This always seemed pretty sane and rational to me.

Originally i found the pain made it hard to focus on the experience of piercing etc, but managing it was a challenge to overcome. In time i learnt to deal well with pain, and became quite adept at experiencing a modification quite fully.

More recently though i have found myself actively enjoying the pain (not in a sexual way!), and indeed physically recent mods have been a very pleasurable physical experience. I've found this a bit odd, but gone with the flow. The one thing i am finding a bit of difficulty with is that the enjoyment seems to take away from the profundity of the experience. It becomes something nice to do, rather than a challenge or deep experience.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced similar? Any thoughts or suggestions?

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January 6, 2014
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I feel like our personal relationship with our pain/pleasure seems to change with experience. I remember the first time a piercer told me it was okay to make noise and laugh or cry during a piercing and I felt totally liberated!! The physical reaction to pain seems to give me some kind of self identification satisfaction… like an appreciation for living. In my first experiences I just sat there and tried to quietly deal with my feelings and 'get through it' as you mentioned. Now I like to stay right with all my sensory reactions and I even actively seek different mods done in different settings in order to embrace different aspects of my inner and outer self.
I wonder how facing the fear of physical pain effects our ability to cope with emotional pain. Do you think our proprioception is strengthen by having willing awareness during physical pain?

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January 7, 2014
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I have grown to enjoy it as well. I take the enjoyment as a part of the deep experience though. I don't know that I've ever thought of it as "taking away" from the profundity of the experience, to be honest. I am in touch with all of my senses during any procedure, and to me that is part of what makes it deep and personal. I have lost the urge to disassociate and instead pay real attention to what my body is doing and feeling. That's just my personal thoughts!

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January 11, 2014
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I think perhaps this is something to get used to, as the novelty makes it a little distracting.
I haven't dissociated to manage pain for quite a long time now, but the pleasure has mean i have focused less on the physical sensation, more sat back and enjoyed it. I think if i bear that in mind next time it should help me refocus.

The only thing it does change is the challenge aspect. I have always enjoyed overcoming fear and pain. Most things really don't generate either any more. I suppose that it must be like an experienced skydiver or marathon runner, the experience changes in time.

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January 11, 2014
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I have never really found myself enjoying the pain really up until I started getting my subdermal implants done. At that point I started to realize the spiritual high I got from the process and from then on I have always enjoyed the pain (and pleasure) that come with each new modification :)

January 12, 2014
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I have a very mixed relationship with pain which is highly context dependent. I am hypermobile and deal with chronic pain every day and this can be very draining and is never pleasant. However, I also gain some amount of pleasure in certain types of self inflicted pain such as when suspending or engaging in play piercing. For me, I think it comes down to control and being able to choose to experience pain compared to not having any choice at all. For those who haven't had the same sorts of experiences, I think this can be difficult for some to understand.

I'm not sure that I'd necessarily say that the way in which I experience pain has changed in a dramatic fashion but I would say that compared to when I first started modifying myself, I have come to much better understand my relationship with pain. Just because some pain falls under the category of bad doesn't mean that all pain needs fall under that category.

January 13, 2014
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sleezy_beezy said

I have never really found myself enjoying the pain really up until I started getting my subdermal implants done. At that point I started to realize the spiritual high I got from the process and from then on I have always enjoyed the pain (and pleasure) that come with each new modification :)

I am having a lot of pain in my left biceps as I do a lot of bodybuilding but I love this pain as its is helps me to increase my arms size cm by cm. My passion is doing bodybuilding and any type of pain I suffer due to it, I just love it. Hehe

January 13, 2014
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Have you looked at the enjoyment factor in a way that it could be a precursor to esctatic trancework? Most of the techniques to get into the esctatic trances are body straining in a pleasureable way.

For me I've always had a fascination with pain. Not the pain I get with the fibro or my autoimmune disease, but otherwise inflicted pain. It has evolved over time to be a way into trance, not as a dissociative thing, but to experience the whole of what is being done on multi-planes.

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January 23, 2014
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from a very early age I've always thought of pain as the most transformative of catalysts, be physical or emotional. I think that body play helps to refine the individuals coping mechanisms for pain, teaching them to apply it to everyday life. I generally think that most people feel that pain is bad and should be avoided, not realizing the benefits of eventual pain over fear.

January 24, 2014
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KendrahLi said
Have you looked at the enjoyment factor in a way that it could be a precursor to esctatic trancework? Most of the techniques to get into the esctatic trances are body straining in a pleasurable way.

Sorry i missed this before. That's a really good point, and i'm not sure why i haven't thought of it before. The setting might be more important, but this does open some good opportunities. Thank you!

 

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