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February 3, 2008
Many years ago, over 13 years now, the CoBM was starting up and someone decided the church needed a website. That website, for those that may not remember, was http://churchofbodmod.com. From 2000 to 2003, churchofbodmod.com was the online meeting place for members as well as those wanting to learn more about the CoBM. However, in 2002, a sister site was established; http://uscobm.com. Though uscobm.com simply mirrored churchofbodmod.com at first, it eventually replaced the latter and, in 2003, churchofbodmod.com was not renewed and was bought up by a web forwarding service.
Though uscobm.com has had millions of visits since first coming online, we have continued to use the id 'churchofbodmod' on other sites such as Twitter (twitter.com/churchofbodmod) and Facebook (facebook.com/churchofbodmod). The CoBM has not owned churchofbodmod.com since 2003 but the URL recently became available and, we are happy to write, it is a CoBM domain once again. We will continue using uscobm.com as our main address on the web and churchofbodmod.com will point to the main site. It's nice to have the domain back with us, where it all started.
For a visit down memory lane and to see what the sites looked like over the years, visit churchofbodmod.com and uscobm.com on the Internet Archive Wayback Machine:
Church of Body Modification, President
Excellent news sir! Well done indeed.
I have had a great time checking out old versions of the site. It's been very educational, and interesting, especially looking at old ministers! (I can't help wondering why some of them left and if any would be interested in being part of things again?).
There's also some cool ways the church has evolved too over time (for the better in my opinion).
February 3, 2008
I agree. It's interesting to see where we came from and how things have changed over the years. Not only the website itself, but also the language used to describe the church, its mission, etc. I truly hope we have improved over the years and continue to improve and refine as more time passes.
To try to answer your question about past ministers, I'm sure there are many reasons why they are no longer with the CoBM. Surely some had other obligations to attend to, and maybe some simply no longer saw the CoBM as representing them, or vice versa. I can say for sure that in 2007, when I became president, we started with a clean slate of ministers as many were MIA with no way to get ahold of. However, previous ministers were, and still are, encouraged to re-apply but none ever have.
I'm curious how you or others view general or specific changes over the years.
Church of Body Modification, President
I think things have evolved for the better.
A few bits i spotted were…
The wording carries much of the same message (more than i had anticipated tbh), but is much simpler and more concise nowerdays.
There seemed to be more of a focus on physical meeting and local groups in the past. I'm not sure if the move to a more global information based organisation is exactly an improvement, but it's certainly pragmatic and more workable. You can see some of the pitfalls in the old material with setting up small 'chapters' centred around one or 2 ministers.
There was more emphasis on modification prodedure and aftercare in the past, which seems a bit odd now. Actually the advice i have seen is fairly good (if a little dated), but not really our remit. The APP can do their thing, we do ours!
A few times i picked up on the hierarchical nature of things, (and the same perceptions in the past kept me from joining the COBM for some time). I'm not sure whether my reading between the lines is (or was) totally accurate, but i like the non-hierarchical church we have now. Sure there are ministers still (and a president!), but i guess we need some way of making sure people giving advice as part of the CoBM are singing from a similar hymn sheet, and it does seem less than the past to me.
Lastly there was a lot more fundraising and pressing for donations then. My first reaction is it seems a bit pushy, and something which caused some problems in the past. Maybe there was more ambition about taking legal cases and taking the fight for equal rights to government?
I don't think we have a lack of ambition, but again the CoBM feels more pragmatic now, more mature.
January 7, 2011
Well, as a rebel at heart and former activist, I like the idea of taking legal action and going to ground. There is still much discrimination and while we could always state it's our legal right to practice our religion as we see fit, there would not be many companies willing to take us seriously. There are far too many dress codes with such puritanical ideals as "only two ear piercings for women and none for men", or "no visible tattoos". It's insulting. I was offered a job at a school for kids with behavioral issues out in CA, and was told that I'd have to remove my facial piercings, half my ear piercings and could not wear gauged jewelry (which my largest gauge at the time was quite small, a 4 or 6 I think) and cover all my tats because we were trying to teach these kids (many of whom already had tattoos) that no one in life is successful covered in piercings and tattoos. I told them that the only reason that rang true is because there is so much discrimination in the workplace toward people who have modifications, and that in my own defense, I had a higher education and was quite successful in my career until the economy collapsed and I was laid off. So…I turned down their crap job. I find it saddening that that is one of the prime lessons they chose to teach to disadvantaged youth. They could have been praising them for their achievements, encouraging them to follow their passions, go to college, make a life for themselves. Instead they've already damned the kids who had tattoos. Sad world.
May 24, 2012
It seems like not only has our forum grown in physical locations, many different regions and countries, but also in age. On almost all of our large current threads we seem to have people from about age 15-40. Many of these changes have happened in the past 2 years. These key points speak volumes considering the popularity of all the social networking sites.
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