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August 22, 2012
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strommer
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so im taking a carving class next term and my girlfriend got me some precious stones malachite being one of them my friend who works with stone saw it and freaked out telling me that it has copper in it and as a result of that it would release toxic metals into my body i know malachite is formed on and around copper deposits and this is possibly a likely thing but ive seen a lot of jewelry made out of it has anyone had or heard of any bad reactions from it?   

August 23, 2012
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Yes, I have.  It will give the person wearing it a similar reaction to lapiz directly on the skin.  If you want to wear it, simply wrap it.  I have known people who have worn it for a fancy dinner or a photo shoot without complications, but it is advised to keep it off the skin for more than a short amount of time and DO NOT BREATHE THE DUST from cutting it. 

    Inlay in to wood would be beautiful!!   It would be super cool to have some plugs that you could pop all different stones into.  I have used sterile non-adhesive gauze to wrap a variety of stones and wood to wear them in my lobes.  Check a few different types for thickness and comfort.  I don't remember the brand I used, but you can find it in any place with band-aids. 

    I am stoked for you to take this class, so keep us posted as you learn all sorts of awesome information.  Lapidary work is fun!!  I suggest the book Love is in the Earth.  I think you can get it for $6 on amazon used…. worth it!!

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August 23, 2012
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Yes there is truth to this. You can check with the company and ask for a mill cert this would show all the compounds in the material. Or just paint it with a coat of clear nailpolsih. just make sure to reapply from time to time as it may degrade.

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August 23, 2012
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I actually had not heard of this before….weird. Really good to learn about it, though!

I could suggest plumber's tape to wrap with. That's what I generally wrap my plugs with when I'm stretching my lobes. It's super cheap, and you can get it just about everywhere that has some sort of hardware section. It comes off easily so you can replace it if it gets dirty.

 

Sommersett, I really like the idea of wood with changeable stones!

August 23, 2012
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i like the sounds of wood with a malachite inlay. the clear nail polish is a bad idea as you said it degrades over time and i would rather just wear untreated jewelry than cover it with toxic chemicals.  

August 23, 2012
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I betcha SasQuatch would be glad to make anything we could dream of.  He's real into it and wants his business to be viable. 

I have seen reactions with plumbers tape and nail polish.  The gauze works well because you won't react unless you have some kind of rare allergy to cotton.  Even a thin layer cut to size will reduce exposure to the stone.  I have some tagua nut and black walnut plugs that I must wrap to wear.  Honestly, you can use any cloth with healthy lobes… regular old t-shirts work well.  I started using it because I wanted to wrap some plugs in something black.  I do wonder if it would be slippery on the stone because my lobes are only 1 inch and my plugs are not as heavy as yours may be. 

anybody have experience?

Do you have access to a lathe at school?

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August 23, 2012
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just realized i have lapiz in my labret that explains why its been irritated it sure is ridiculous that theres no regulation on body jewelry companys ive seen so many selling toxic materials with no consequence for it    

August 24, 2012
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I'd never heard of this before! I had always assumed most stone with metal content was not in a bioavailable form.

Well you learn something new every day!

 

Not loving the nail varnish idea though tbh!

Not heard of cotton gauze either. I guess it would work, but only very short term as it'll absorb oils and skin would grip it. Bit risky maybe?

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August 24, 2012
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This idea makes my head spin.  This world is amazing!!

http://www.lifegem.com/

I'd totally wear a few of you in my ear!! Wink

Bummer about the lapiz, but cool that I mentioned that one specifically and you needed that information.  Try glass instead of stone if you like the feel and look.  You want borosilicate glass for bio compatibility.  This is not a brand, but rather a type which is safe for us to wear in our body.  It is not more expensive.  The color, if you choose to wear a color, should be covered by a layer of clear glass to eliminate exposure to toxins.

 

The bioavailability of the entire composition of all stones is real.  Some stones are harder than others, of course, and will transfer less…. that's what we want.  All stones will give you a physical, and some people (like me) believe an emotional response.  I suppose a spiritual or metaphysical response isn't too far fetched for me to believe either.  Beautiful magic!!

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August 24, 2012
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i definitely prefer glass but ive wanted sets of jewelry in every stone out there and it sucks that this stuff is out there with company's mass producing them im taking a glass foundry class next term im gonna have to check in to that glass 

August 24, 2012
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http://crystalsandjewelry.com/…..tones.html

 

A good list of toxic stones.

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August 24, 2012
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Please share any information you find out about the glass.  I wear it everyday.

Although being correct is cool, being wrong is often more fun and I get to learn more!!

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August 24, 2012
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thanks my favorite one they put on the list was uranium Smile

August 24, 2012
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interesting it says when polished there less likely to have toxins seep out wonder if this would help with the jewelry?

August 24, 2012
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Sommersett said
I betcha SasQuatch would be glad to make anything we could dream of.  He's real into it and wants his business to be viable. 

You're damned right I will!

And as far as interchangeable stones, I read this thread and spoke to my girlfriend about it…she had a genius solution, and as most genius, it is remarkably simple.  Magnets.

I set a magnet into the wood, and you glue the magnet onto the back of your favorite stone (or anything else you want in there) and there you go.  The only trick will be finding a glue which will work well enough to hold against the strength of the magnets.

As for pure stone jewelry, I would vote against nail polish too.  But there might be some other finish that could be sprayed on and totally seal the stone so it wouldn't be able to react with the skin.  The trick there is finding a finish that sticks to the stone (and that could vary with the type of stone) and is also biocompatible itself.  That would allow you to make solid stone jewelry that would never stain and never have negative reactions with skin.

It happens that my girlfriend also has a few pieces of malachite, so I'll be testing it to see if acrylic sticks to it well.  I'll let you know what I discover, but it might be a couple weeks before I'm satisfied that I've done enough to know what I'm talking about.

And Strommer…I've got my heart set on moving to some small town in Oregon when my business takes off enough for me to do it full-time.  Maybe there's a partnership in our future?  Not making offers or assumptions at this moment (and not for another couple years, at least) but it seems promising, no?

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August 25, 2012
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Acrylic is gross.  Methyl Methacrylate Monomers are dangerous.  Check it out.

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August 25, 2012
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sasquatch, if anything we will have to hang out when you get to oregon and go from there…………iv actually had a few ideas with interchangeable faces for wooden plugs involving magnets and my gf's art i'll post pics when we get em figured out

August 25, 2012
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Sommersett said
Acrylic is gross.  Methyl Methacrylate Monomers are dangerous.  Check it out. 

Acrylic is gross.  Methyl Methacrylate Monomers are dangerous.  Check it out.

Only in a fresh piercing.  If the piercing is well healed and the jewelry is removed periodically for cleaning it should be safe for all.  I've worn solid acrylic and wood finished with acrylic for a long time.  I've even been stretching my lobes by making my own slightly-larger jewelry finished with acrylic and I've had no problems.

It's only my own experience, and I understand that some people could have negative reactions to it, but I think if a person has worn solid acrylic in the past and had no issues, then an acrylic finish on another material should be fine.

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September 26, 2012
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wow im so glad that I opened this thread.. ill have to pass on some info to some friends.. i know a lot of them wear toxic stones in their labrets… thats crazy!

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