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Anyone ever faced discrimination?
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November 1, 2013
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ShylaRose
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I go to a very conservative church and some people have been small minded enough to look down their nose at me because of my mods, most of which are visible. Very cruel things have been said. I was wondering if anyone has been treated differently or flat out discriminated against beause of their mods?

November 3, 2013
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KendrahLi
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Yes, frequently. But with all things it is your response to them which makes or breaks you. I have learned to let most of it all roll off and it lessens the impact on my emotional well being.

-= www.khaotyk-artwerx.com =- Ex Ignorantia Ad Sapientiam; E Luce Ad Tenebras
November 3, 2013
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I try to do the same. Some people are just too focused on appearances. Ive known some lovely people who were heavily modified. I personally dont believe for a moment that appearances dictate character.

November 6, 2013
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Yeh, all the time, I accepted I am who I am and not everyone likes it

November 6, 2013
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Appearances dictate character because people DO react. I would not have been provided all the lessons I have learned if I didn't wear visible modifications all the time. Of course, some of the lessons don't have to do directly with appearance, but you know what I'm referring to. At least I think so.

Everyone has something to say about the Mona Lisa until you're standing in front of it speechless.
November 7, 2013
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ShylaRose
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Appearances dont necessarily dicate character. Certain appearances will draw certain judgements from others but they are not always an accurate measurement of a persons character or personal code of ethics.

November 8, 2013
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I think it could be better to say that appearance may effect character because people will react and alter their behaviour to you, to which you may react in turn.
Has being heavily modified changed my character. Yes, if i'm honest i think it has. Has it dictated it? No i don't believe so, as much of my character has endured, and i have chosen how i react and what sort of person i will be.

We face discrimination certainly, but it's what we do with that, the moral decisions we make, that reflect character. I'm less interested in what kind of person everyone else is, and more on what kind of person i am.

Going to church does not make you a spiritual person, but may give you the appearance of being one. How you act there may demonstrate what kind of person you really are.

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Nietzsche
November 12, 2013
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I have to agree with you about the bit regarding peoples behavior may change your character. Ie,Ive been treated poorly by people at my church because of a particular health issue I have. Two years of constant berating and belittlement has made me a bit of a cynic.

As for bod mods changing ones character,if mine have changed me at all its been for the better. I feel more at peace with myself and as a result I tend to be happier and easier to be around.

November 17, 2013
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Yes, I have experienced horrific discrimination. I've said before on other threads that I have faced everything from unkind words to condemnation to threats to people actually carrying out those threats in an attempt on my life.

There's always a lot of talk around here about discrimination and the roadblocks it throws up in our paths. Usually, this talk is centered around employment (or lack thereof), but I cannot stress the point enough. Becoming the victim of violence is a very real possibility for anyone who is too far outside the main-stream.

If you don't believe me, ask a member of the LGBT community. The same religious fools who ridicule, exclude, attack, rape, and murder them are out there doing the same things to members of the modified community. Were it not for my martial arts training and (so I have come to believe) the helping hand of some people who are dead but, nonetheless, helping me through situations like that, I would not be alive today to warn people about this danger.

So please, don't take this warning lightly. Get some self-defense training. Carry pepper spray, a tazer, or a gun. Do SOMETHING to prepare yourself for an attack, because it is very real. I am NOT kidding or exaggerating. People have attacked me in virtually every way conceivable, including poison. People have tried to MURDER me. The only reason they singled me out in the first place is because of my modifications.

Do your best to avoid the violence, but be ready for it, because someday they might wander in your direction, and they'll be smiling at you as they draw their weapons.

Sometimes I wonder if I can say anything in less than a hundred words.
November 18, 2013
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Smiling, you say? What do you think about the saying, "find what you love and let it kill you?" Just curious.

I have 6 years of Martial Arts training and I carry a weapon at all times. My kids just took their first belt test last week and they both passed! They are 4 and 5. Anyway, I agree, I just want your feedback about that saying. It has been coming up in my path lately. Anyone can respond, not just SasQ.

I like to think about discrimination like the tests which have been done on tiny growing plants. You know the ones? Scientists play different music and record the results. I'm sure you can find plenty of note worthy documentation on the web. Anyway, the plants that grew the MOST and the STRONGEST were the ones exposed the Heavy Metal music. The second strongest plants were exposed to Standard Classical. I know the resistance fortifies me. I know overcoming obstacles strengthens me. I know continuing to live the most authentic life I can allows me to appreciate zen.

I try to direct the friction in my life when and where I can. It's not always possible, but years of debate team in school has helped! I think the negative friction is a normal part of life these days, and finding an outlet for that is a great idea!

Everyone has something to say about the Mona Lisa until you're standing in front of it speechless.
November 19, 2013
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Sommersett said

What do you think about the saying, "find what you love and let it kill you?" Just curious.

I like that saying. We all wind up dead from one thing or another. I think prolonging one's life at the expense of peace and happiness isn't very appealing to my ear.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic, but oh well. There it is.

You're right that resistance can strengthen us. I would liken it to boot camp. The soldier is put through a nightmare experience in order to strengthen the mind and body to prepare for war.

War, on the other hand, can easily break one's mind in ways that are virtually irreparable, at least with today's understanding of the mind. Now, I'm not saying that my experiences are quite as bad as war, but I believe I was suffering symptoms of PTSD for quite a while, and I've been told by several members of our military that I have the stare.

I don't feel I've been strengthened by it. I feel my sanity has been undermined. I know for sure my inner tranquility and sense of spiritual balance has been disrupted and I am still working to find it again. But at least I'm alive to try.

Sometimes I wonder if I can say anything in less than a hundred words.
November 19, 2013
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I was relating making a choice to modify our bodies as the thing we love, and the discrimination as the part that kills us.

If there is anything I can do to specifically help facilitate your healing, do not ever hesitate to ask. Skills abound, yo!

Everyone has something to say about the Mona Lisa until you're standing in front of it speechless.
November 22, 2013
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It all makes perfect sense now.

Sometimes I wonder if I can say anything in less than a hundred words.
November 23, 2013
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Yes, all the time. going through it right now with my bar job, Takes it out of me not rising to there crap tbh. Be true to who you are and excuse my french but fuck what other people think. As ling as your happy in your skin that's all that matters!

November 28, 2013
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Yes, I too have been looked down at due to the way I look. Right now I am fighting a huge battle because of it. I work as an emergency dispatcher and several years ago my work started allowing facial piercings. Now there is a new director and they have changed the policy to state that we can't have our piercings and no "Gauges". I have tried to explain that it is not right that we CAN do permanent mod's to our bodies and then be told we can't. And their poor excuse for the term "Gauge" is very miss construed. I explained that technically anyone with pierced ears have "Gauges". But it is falling on deaf ears. But I have what I have and I am who I am. That is all I can say.

December 7, 2013
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kaytemew
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Constantly. I feel like in this day and age, it would be more widely accepted, and not so much associated with satan, unmoral practices, and slacker mentalities.

Here's what gets me though- facing discrimination WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. And not just discrimination, but bullying and ego as well. I have seen so often on Facebook and heard people talking about each other, "well that person shouldn't be allowed to have knuckles/neck/hands tattooed because they don't even have full sleeves." and "she looks stupid with the monroe piercing." Shouldn't we all be in this together?!

These things have hardened in our soft pink bellies.
December 13, 2013
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I am very fortunate in that I have experienced relatively little discrimination myself and this despite having visible facial tattoos. Part of that, I think, is the community I associate with which, if not especially heavily modified overall, is a very open community. Part of it I think is the area I live in which is noted for being, in general, more socially liberal than many other areas. Part of it I think is that I've just been lucky.

While I have certainly had some negative reactions, most of them subtle some of them not so much, I can't say that I've ever been denied something because I happen to be modified. I do worry, however, about the prospect of losing my job because I am much more heavily modified now than at the time when I got my job. I chose call center work specifically because it is known for being modification friendly, but having large gauge facial piercings and facial tattoos could potentially make looking for work even in a modification friendly field difficult. Luckily I face no immediate prospects of that happening.

December 23, 2013
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All the time. Mainly by the local law enforcement. I have been handcuffed and searched, for merely walking down the road with my (non-modified) friend. I was the only one who got treated that way.

Every man is the builder of a temple, called his body, to the god he worships, after a style purely his own, nor can he get off by hammering marble instead. We are all sculptors and painters, and our material is our own flesh and blood and bones. Any nobleness begins at once to refine a man's features, any meanness or sensuality to imbrute them. —Henry David Thoreau, Walden (1862)
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